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Hi Tom. I confess to having thought that you were too harsh in your criticism of Syrsky. I was wrong. Now it's obvious for all to see. I have many highly educated Ukrainian friends, two of them have lived with me for 4 years. All detest Zelensky whilst admitting that he has generally performed well in European PR. This disaster at a time when Ukraine has almost managed to isolate Crimea and cripple the Russian oil industry. You would think that even Zelensky could see that when Z bloggers are exulting at this development, it may be a Very Bad Idea.

Apparently there was a meeting between Yermak and Syrsky yesterday...

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When I was young and someone said, "I was thinking about you yesterday," I was shocked. I couldn't believe anyone would think about me when I wasn't in front of them. I've never felt anyone cares what I think. I've always felt a stranger in a strange land. I'm used to living out there — and I enjoy it. Every time someone answers one of my comments here, a small part of me is surprised and tickled. I suspect it's somewhat the same for you, Tom, though I don't want to speak for you. Anyway, background out of the way.

Many people are emotionally attached to Ukraine as a real nation — people, friends, family trying to live good lives. Kind to others. Sharing common civilized values. Morality.

When I suggest (and I own this) that Ukraine is no longer a democracy but an oligarchy run to make money from war, to me it's just an opinion. Might be right, might be wrong. If people don't think about me, I don't see why they'd get upset about something I think. When someone does get upset — like Don a few weeks back — part of me wonders, why so emotional? It's just an opinion from someone who doesn't matter.

But the truth is, I'm just as upset. I just have a defense mechanism from childhood: defend myself through logic. So I can say, "Ukraine needs a meritocratic military." Others can agree or disagree. But there comes a point — and we're at it now — where it seems that will not happen. Then what?

Where do we go if we accept that Zelensky is deeply corrupt, and there's no fixing him or replacing him? What do we believe in then? Skepticism is no longer useful. We simply lost. Things weren't the way we wanted them to be. It's been gut-wrenching for me.

In a way, many in Ukraine have moved away from any morality or principle. It's simply "kill as many Russians as we can." That's it. Anyone who questions that is not on the team. Whatever the problems are, they can't be fixed, so let's just get on with it.

No time for philosophical talk. You're for Ukraine or Russia. No but-iffs.

Or put another way: you never really wanted to say "I told you so." But now you can. The problem is that "I told you so" is a judgment on all of us. We had ideals. We were wrong. We were deluded. It was always going to end this way.

I'm as upset as Don. We're all upset I believe. What way forward? I expect we'll continue doing what we do. But things will never be the same. We've reached the part of the movie, "It's just Chinatown, Jack"

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