Probably the same as Ukrainians who still believe they shoot down 99% of the missiles and drones and yet they don't have electricity and their government is crying for more air defense...
One thing I noted about typical Moscow-Russian mentality at the times when I still occasionally tried to convince some of them about anything: one of their core beliefs is "everyone lies". That includes their government, media (both mass and social), their friends, themselves and, of course, the rest of the world. So, if there's simply no truth to be found anywhere, why not just choose to believe the lies you like the most? Whatever they don't like, didn't happen unless there's "hard evidence" (and any evidence on the Internet is obviously fabricated, and they are too far and too busy to see what happens with their own eyes, which would also be lying anyway).
...Still, some of them liked to brag that they read "foreign media" to feel objective. Of course, they only ever sent me links to articles in "foreign media" either retranslating typical Russian PRBS, or stating that "things are unclear" (which somehow made the Russian version the correct one, in their opinion).
Is it possible for Ukraine (maybe with help of some Warsaw Pact countries) to reeingineer S-200 and S-300 missilies and start producing them? Would it help?
Only very little. The PSU has made good use of its and Polish remaining S-200s - by driving VKS' A-50s away. And making Tu-22M-3-crews more cautious. That's about the maximum one can reach with them.
S-300 as operated by the PSU is, de-facto, block-obsolete. Something the Russians know very well. Launching their production so one can shoot them at Shaheds and Kh-101s would not only be unaffordable, but pointless.
Should add, though, that I'm refusing to learn more about the Ukrainian geography until official Kyiv sorts out that issue with 100+ Bilohorivkas... and few other, unpronounceable geographic designations. ;-)
Thank you, Tom. Do you think the situation in Syria could have any impact on the fighting in Ukraine? Can Russia withdraw some troops and send them to Assad or will Iran be more involved.
AFAIK, Pudding and his Keystone Cops in Moscow are presently not in a condition to send reinforcements to Syria. Except for UMPKs. So, from that aspect, this is 'good'.
The question, though, is what is Erdo going to do with the new situation. The last time, he's squandered a clear-cut win after (literally) having a few vodkas too much...
BTW AFAIK with Volkswagen it was €4.5 billion in dividends and €5 billion shoudl save closing factories (e.g. https://www.dw.com/en/volkswagen-ceo-defends-job-cuts-citing-economic-pressures/a-70165127 ) And it's public and well known information. Even if a company has profit it may close some non-profitable parts, it's normal. Shame is, they pay dividends while crying they have not enough money for R&D and other investments.
Сьогодні розмовляв з дружиною, вона каже що більше 24 годин не було електроенергії, не буду казати в якому місті, і дали на дві години, якраз має вистачити часу на приготування їжі ((( сам двічі сидів перш й раз 27 годин і другий 23 години без електроенергії. Коли будинок без газу це є проблемою, маючи малу дитину на руках, таке воно життя.
На жаль, ще не вечір, як у нас кажуть - курчат по осені будемо рахувати, я до того що зима ще не скоро завершиться, і не відомо що буде і в якому стані.
Thanks Tom. Is it possible that the Ukrainian leadership does not strike the enemy energy sector with drones at the insistence of Western partners? There can be no talk of any humanity here - missile and drone strikes on the Ukrainian energy sector devalue the construction of Rheinmetall or Bayraktar plants in Ukraine to zero.
It not about "standarts", but about power https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_policeman And officially, Washington is and always was against labeling USA as "world police" (at least in term of moral standards, IMO they would not object if that would be just king of superpower label.)
So, UK, USA and other countries from West were SOMETIMES able to use power abroad to enforce their interests. (Sometimes these interests fits into someone morale standards, but it's very very very subjective.)
I have written SOMETIMES in capitals, because there were many many cases when West was and is not able to enforce it's interests for various reasons. And that's the case in Syria: it's was not possible to enforce some kind of "West interests" with disunited local opposition and other local powers meddling into it heavily.
So, neither "West" is so strong to do anything it wants, it cannot be "police" as some people imagine.
Because Syrians, Turkey, and Saudis all called for help, leadership, and guidance from 'the West', but 'the West' declared Syria for 'none of its business'. Shall I go on with that list?
Turkeys and Saudis had enough money and power to make "police" in Syria themself, they need no help if they would act united with each other and "Syrians". (But I am afraid such Saudi policing would be like in that one in Jemen).
You seriously expect a quasi-democracy ruled by an incompetent opportunist, and a Wahhabism-supported dictatorship to 'police' a traditionally pluralist Syria - and that while 'the West' then held back both of them so the IRGC can run its military intervention there, and, when that was not enough, also when the Russians launch their intevention, too?
Ok, so let's image West would give full support to Turkey and Saudis, lot of arms and political support, but no money and no own soldiers. You think they would bring peace to Syria? I think that Turkey would just occupy northern Syria, kill many bad Kurds (i.e. those Kurds who say "w"). And Saudis would either refuse that or do just another Jemen.
I.e. Turkey and Saudis just wanted West to do dirty and bloody job for them, for Western money, and then enforce their interests.
You do realize the "West" occupies a quarter of the country and fully support "Kurds who say "w" led by foreigners hiding along the Iraq-Iran border, providing them money and high tech equipment so they can launch deadly raids against mostly displaced Syrian like earlier this week ?
The West remains deeply active in Syria and show no serious sign of going out. The problem is the West is active only to do its own part of the carnage hands in hands with Assad, Iran and Russia.
Meanwhile Turkey and KSA literally spent the last 8 years begging Assad and his backers to reach an accommodation where he keeps power but agrees to not slaughter the remaining millions of Syrians living outside the regions currently under his control.
There is no difference between westerners like you and Z Russians. You are all exactly the same.
Maybe my memory is deficient, but I seem to recall Turkey putting out a welcome mat for aspiring jihadis arriving and a sign on the border saying "this way to the Islamic State"
" like the Austrian taxpayers are never informed about the KTM going bankrupt after paying record-breaking dividends to its shareholders, earlier this year, but now being unable to pay its employees…"
Tom, please, if you are able to pay massive dividends during Covid times is a display of fabulous business skills and foresight. You are just misunderstanding donations to the main government party is providing you with excellent subsidies is not corruption, but rather a method of cunningness.
....especially after receiving millions in subventions from taxpayer's pockets - all in the name of 'saving economy during the pandemic-caused lock-down'...
Well, it is our citizens duty to finance those great entrepreneurs in their hour of need as they didn't pay taxes beforehand anyway. Especially as they were not responsible for this pandemic and never ever profited from open trade, tax havens and cheap Chinese labour flying back to work in Italy after Chinese New Year. And you are a backwarded, far right extremists for writing in your pamphlet that following cheapest labour and lowest regulations is not in our citizens interest. Ask the people in Berndorf what they think about that, for God's sake....
Yes Syria 10 years ago was an early test of Western resolve. Failed test spectacular. Not only did Putin secure Russia's place in the Middle East, but as a bonus, was able to inflict damage to Europe social structure with the flood of refugees resultant, possibly the first take on “hybrid” warfare.
Libya was an earlier example of Western resolve.) Keep in mind that Gaddaffi had a "silent agreement" with the Western Europe leaders not to let refugees from Tropical Africa in. After he was thrown off, the flood of refugees came to Europe. Guess, smth wrong with your logic. Should I remind about exodus of Cristians and Kurds to Europe from Iraq after the "liberation"?)
Yesno. The Russian 'aerial offensive' on Syria of 2015-2017 was INTENTIONALLY targeting civic authorities and civil life in insurgent-controlled parts of Syria, to drive everybody 'against Assad' out of Syria. Preferably into Turkey, from where the refugees were then 'sent' to the EU.
What happened in Libya was (compressed and oversimplified) that the new gov turned down all the UN and EU/NATO advice for a peacekeeping force, and launched a rapid democratisation. This was against designs of both Qatar/Turkey (Tripoli) and UAE/Egypt (Benghazi), whose favourites were losing early local elections. And then Pudding/FSB added their 'Jihad import/export business' - the same that also landed 30,000+ of 'Islamists' from Russia in Syria - and that's what led to the civil war.
With other words: Q's removal didn't result in the 'flood of refuges'. The civil war did.
Tom, hand on heart: does anyone possess true data about which % of Syrian refugees were pressed away from the country by Assad/RU/Iranians or ISIS/ AQ/Turkish militants? Cristians and other religious minorities suffer first from Sunni extremists as we saw in Iraq. One should not forget "trivial" economic reason - Syria plunged into collapse and people ran away for better life.
Yes, there are several organisations who can tell you all the details. Just google around for a few minutes: the data is all available.
Additionally, I can tell you about a number of my friends who ended in Germany that way: you know me for years and should know what kind of contacts I've got in the country.
I don’t know what “silent agreement” (quotation marks noted) Gaddafi had with the West, but I don’t think Gaddafi could be trusted to continue honoring any agreement, “silent” or otherwise outside of agreeing not to make a nuclear weapon Libya didn’t have the ability to produce. (One further thought, Russia does have influence too, at least on the eastern part of Libya, so maybe they are less than enthusiastic about stanching the flow of African peoples). In any case the events in Libya reflects little on events elsewhere, particularly in light of the Syria, to my knowledge, does not share any border with Africa and the ”West” taking the exactly opposite tack Libya vs. Syria, limited intervention vs. non-intervention. As to the number of refugees from Syria, here’s an article by the BBC from 2016 to refresh your memory, https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34131911. The article is very illuminating overall, but note point number 1. I don’t see Africa listed, although Afghanistan, who you don’t mention comes in a distant second. Such a migration is suggested elsewhere, though it appears in 2014-2015, the primary flow was from the eastern Mediterranean, not central (i.e. Libya).
"I lack the time to read myself through the usual ‘chatter’ about nuking Berlin, London, Paris, and Mars; the 15th announcement of the destruction of 2,000, 6,000, 20,000 ‘Ukrainian nationalists’ in the Olgovska forest; or lectures about ‘moral obsolescence of NATO’ and similar." Tom, I envy you ability to travel in the past to 2022 or 2023, because nowdays none of the serious RU forum will post or discuss such nonsense.
"And somebody else scratched together an entire MIM-23 HAWK SAM-system and this was delivered to Ukraine via Poland this week"
Spanish caravan dilevered this cargo. Since lion's share of Hawk missiles are used against Shaheeds, just wonder how many days it will take to empty the stock.
"Primarily made from components made in the PR China. " Friend in need is a friend indeed. Once again, no matter who will succeed current regime in Moscow, they need to remember who was together with Russia or neutral in this turbulent and crazy time.
"Ukraine deployed ATACMs to hit the 92N6E radar and two launchers of the S-400 SAM-system outside the village of Velyke Zhyrovo".
The word is the system was inoperable and was spotted by UA intel via tic-toc post of one of the soldiers serving the SAM under repair who reported the state of things. Sheer madness....
"the Russians are ‘retaliating’ against the Ukrainian energy sector". Not always that way. Iskander recently hit presumable UA GROM-2 short-range ballistic missile launcher (some say it was Neptune launcher):
Yup. And 800+ other UAVs, ballistic- and cruise missiles targeting the Ukrainian infrastructure in the last 5-6 days alone - simply do not matter, right?
Tom, they target various types of infrustructure. Energy sector looks like a key target, sure thing, but industrial factories, port infrustructure, railway stations, and etc are also targeted. And yes, Iskander mainly aimed at military targets.
I'll forward your message to all the Ukrainians made homeless or worse - like losing family members, neighbours and similar - due to hits on dozens of apartment buildings. And that the last few days alone. I'm sure they're going to feel much better to hear this didn't happen.
Просто от их тупости и лицимерия за последние 3 года уже просто тошнит. Люди, не создавшие ничего глобально полезного за последние 30 лет, живущие анахронизмоми и учат нас, украинцев, и весь мир правильно жить...
I remember when I was at university in early 2000s reading that the CIA had reported that American companies had ceased working in American interests as early as 1960s.
And then from 1970s on, those same companies were given huge boosts to their power when governments deregulated and embraced globalisation.
So now those companies have massive power to the point they compromise government sovereignty.
Western governments have become "third world" in that they now serve the interests of companies and not the state.
Here in Australia but from what O have read, USA and NZ, that is also destroying living standards and destroying the middle class.
This applies to foreign policy as well as domestic policy.
Thanks for the update. Great news that now at least Ukraine can use Western weapons to hit equipment in Russia proper. Unbelievable that since 2022 Ukraine had to beg for equipment from the West while figuring out ways of destroying Russian military equipment/industry on their own. Shame on the West for this delay.
Probably the same as Ukrainians who still believe they shoot down 99% of the missiles and drones and yet they don't have electricity and their government is crying for more air defense...
One thing I noted about typical Moscow-Russian mentality at the times when I still occasionally tried to convince some of them about anything: one of their core beliefs is "everyone lies". That includes their government, media (both mass and social), their friends, themselves and, of course, the rest of the world. So, if there's simply no truth to be found anywhere, why not just choose to believe the lies you like the most? Whatever they don't like, didn't happen unless there's "hard evidence" (and any evidence on the Internet is obviously fabricated, and they are too far and too busy to see what happens with their own eyes, which would also be lying anyway).
...Still, some of them liked to brag that they read "foreign media" to feel objective. Of course, they only ever sent me links to articles in "foreign media" either retranslating typical Russian PRBS, or stating that "things are unclear" (which somehow made the Russian version the correct one, in their opinion).
Thanks
Tom, thanks.
Is it possible for Ukraine (maybe with help of some Warsaw Pact countries) to reeingineer S-200 and S-300 missilies and start producing them? Would it help?
Only very little. The PSU has made good use of its and Polish remaining S-200s - by driving VKS' A-50s away. And making Tu-22M-3-crews more cautious. That's about the maximum one can reach with them.
S-300 as operated by the PSU is, de-facto, block-obsolete. Something the Russians know very well. Launching their production so one can shoot them at Shaheds and Kh-101s would not only be unaffordable, but pointless.
The picture of the Ukrainian UAV low over Salavat, on 26 November is actually a Antonov An-2 shot down by Ru air defences after the pilot got cleared by the flight controllers https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/11/28/russian-air-defense-fires-on-civilian-plane-after-mistaking-it-for-ukrainian-drone-a87157
Fired at, not shot down.
My bad
"Known to have been targeted were Lutsk, Volyn, Sumy, Kharkiv..."
Volyn is an oblast with center in Lutsk city. :)
OK, my mistake.
Should add, though, that I'm refusing to learn more about the Ukrainian geography until official Kyiv sorts out that issue with 100+ Bilohorivkas... and few other, unpronounceable geographic designations. ;-)
What about unpronounceable geographic designations in Austria? ;-)
The problem is - by far - not as urgent as in Ukraine. ;-)
Thank you, Tom. Do you think the situation in Syria could have any impact on the fighting in Ukraine? Can Russia withdraw some troops and send them to Assad or will Iran be more involved.
AFAIK, Pudding and his Keystone Cops in Moscow are presently not in a condition to send reinforcements to Syria. Except for UMPKs. So, from that aspect, this is 'good'.
The question, though, is what is Erdo going to do with the new situation. The last time, he's squandered a clear-cut win after (literally) having a few vodkas too much...
BTW AFAIK with Volkswagen it was €4.5 billion in dividends and €5 billion shoudl save closing factories (e.g. https://www.dw.com/en/volkswagen-ceo-defends-job-cuts-citing-economic-pressures/a-70165127 ) And it's public and well known information. Even if a company has profit it may close some non-profitable parts, it's normal. Shame is, they pay dividends while crying they have not enough money for R&D and other investments.
Have heard exactly the opposite figures.
Сьогодні розмовляв з дружиною, вона каже що більше 24 годин не було електроенергії, не буду казати в якому місті, і дали на дві години, якраз має вистачити часу на приготування їжі ((( сам двічі сидів перш й раз 27 годин і другий 23 години без електроенергії. Коли будинок без газу це є проблемою, маючи малу дитину на руках, таке воно життя.
У 2022 я в Києві й 60 годин посидів раз (але тоді всі так сиділи). Добре б не повторювалось...
На жаль, ще не вечір, як у нас кажуть - курчат по осені будемо рахувати, я до того що зима ще не скоро завершиться, і не відомо що буде і в якому стані.
Thanks Tom. Is it possible that the Ukrainian leadership does not strike the enemy energy sector with drones at the insistence of Western partners? There can be no talk of any humanity here - missile and drone strikes on the Ukrainian energy sector devalue the construction of Rheinmetall or Bayraktar plants in Ukraine to zero.
Possible - yes. But, I hope it's not the real reason (except somebody in Kyiv is really very dumb).
Whey to blame "West" for Syria war instead of Turkey, Saudis, UAE, Russia and Iran? Because blaming West for everything is more simple and fancy?
When police ignores certain criminals and they grow into a big threat police is to blame. The criminals themselves are who they are.
What police? UN? There's no police in the international politics.
Don't pretend to be obtuse. We hold Western powers to a higher standard. You can say that you don't but that would be a lie.
It not about "standarts", but about power https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_policeman And officially, Washington is and always was against labeling USA as "world police" (at least in term of moral standards, IMO they would not object if that would be just king of superpower label.)
So, UK, USA and other countries from West were SOMETIMES able to use power abroad to enforce their interests. (Sometimes these interests fits into someone morale standards, but it's very very very subjective.)
I have written SOMETIMES in capitals, because there were many many cases when West was and is not able to enforce it's interests for various reasons. And that's the case in Syria: it's was not possible to enforce some kind of "West interests" with disunited local opposition and other local powers meddling into it heavily.
So, neither "West" is so strong to do anything it wants, it cannot be "police" as some people imagine.
I answered you why Tom blames the West, you didn't need to waste your time writing all that to me. We expect more from our governments that's why.
Because Syrians, Turkey, and Saudis all called for help, leadership, and guidance from 'the West', but 'the West' declared Syria for 'none of its business'. Shall I go on with that list?
(Note: that list is quite long.)
Turkeys and Saudis had enough money and power to make "police" in Syria themself, they need no help if they would act united with each other and "Syrians". (But I am afraid such Saudi policing would be like in that one in Jemen).
You seriously expect a quasi-democracy ruled by an incompetent opportunist, and a Wahhabism-supported dictatorship to 'police' a traditionally pluralist Syria - and that while 'the West' then held back both of them so the IRGC can run its military intervention there, and, when that was not enough, also when the Russians launch their intevention, too?
Cute.
Ok, so let's image West would give full support to Turkey and Saudis, lot of arms and political support, but no money and no own soldiers. You think they would bring peace to Syria? I think that Turkey would just occupy northern Syria, kill many bad Kurds (i.e. those Kurds who say "w"). And Saudis would either refuse that or do just another Jemen.
I.e. Turkey and Saudis just wanted West to do dirty and bloody job for them, for Western money, and then enforce their interests.
You do realize the "West" occupies a quarter of the country and fully support "Kurds who say "w" led by foreigners hiding along the Iraq-Iran border, providing them money and high tech equipment so they can launch deadly raids against mostly displaced Syrian like earlier this week ?
The West remains deeply active in Syria and show no serious sign of going out. The problem is the West is active only to do its own part of the carnage hands in hands with Assad, Iran and Russia.
Meanwhile Turkey and KSA literally spent the last 8 years begging Assad and his backers to reach an accommodation where he keeps power but agrees to not slaughter the remaining millions of Syrians living outside the regions currently under his control.
There is no difference between westerners like you and Z Russians. You are all exactly the same.
Maybe my memory is deficient, but I seem to recall Turkey putting out a welcome mat for aspiring jihadis arriving and a sign on the border saying "this way to the Islamic State"
Yup. In the social media presences of Assadists and Pudding-shills.
" like the Austrian taxpayers are never informed about the KTM going bankrupt after paying record-breaking dividends to its shareholders, earlier this year, but now being unable to pay its employees…"
Tom, please, if you are able to pay massive dividends during Covid times is a display of fabulous business skills and foresight. You are just misunderstanding donations to the main government party is providing you with excellent subsidies is not corruption, but rather a method of cunningness.
....especially after receiving millions in subventions from taxpayer's pockets - all in the name of 'saving economy during the pandemic-caused lock-down'...
Well, it is our citizens duty to finance those great entrepreneurs in their hour of need as they didn't pay taxes beforehand anyway. Especially as they were not responsible for this pandemic and never ever profited from open trade, tax havens and cheap Chinese labour flying back to work in Italy after Chinese New Year. And you are a backwarded, far right extremists for writing in your pamphlet that following cheapest labour and lowest regulations is not in our citizens interest. Ask the people in Berndorf what they think about that, for God's sake....
Yup. The Communism for the rich...
Yes Syria 10 years ago was an early test of Western resolve. Failed test spectacular. Not only did Putin secure Russia's place in the Middle East, but as a bonus, was able to inflict damage to Europe social structure with the flood of refugees resultant, possibly the first take on “hybrid” warfare.
Libya was an earlier example of Western resolve.) Keep in mind that Gaddaffi had a "silent agreement" with the Western Europe leaders not to let refugees from Tropical Africa in. After he was thrown off, the flood of refugees came to Europe. Guess, smth wrong with your logic. Should I remind about exodus of Cristians and Kurds to Europe from Iraq after the "liberation"?)
Yesno. The Russian 'aerial offensive' on Syria of 2015-2017 was INTENTIONALLY targeting civic authorities and civil life in insurgent-controlled parts of Syria, to drive everybody 'against Assad' out of Syria. Preferably into Turkey, from where the refugees were then 'sent' to the EU.
What happened in Libya was (compressed and oversimplified) that the new gov turned down all the UN and EU/NATO advice for a peacekeeping force, and launched a rapid democratisation. This was against designs of both Qatar/Turkey (Tripoli) and UAE/Egypt (Benghazi), whose favourites were losing early local elections. And then Pudding/FSB added their 'Jihad import/export business' - the same that also landed 30,000+ of 'Islamists' from Russia in Syria - and that's what led to the civil war.
With other words: Q's removal didn't result in the 'flood of refuges'. The civil war did.
Tom, hand on heart: does anyone possess true data about which % of Syrian refugees were pressed away from the country by Assad/RU/Iranians or ISIS/ AQ/Turkish militants? Cristians and other religious minorities suffer first from Sunni extremists as we saw in Iraq. One should not forget "trivial" economic reason - Syria plunged into collapse and people ran away for better life.
Yes, there are several organisations who can tell you all the details. Just google around for a few minutes: the data is all available.
Additionally, I can tell you about a number of my friends who ended in Germany that way: you know me for years and should know what kind of contacts I've got in the country.
Not allowed to post a reply...oh well.
post to my non-post
I don’t know what “silent agreement” (quotation marks noted) Gaddafi had with the West, but I don’t think Gaddafi could be trusted to continue honoring any agreement, “silent” or otherwise outside of agreeing not to make a nuclear weapon Libya didn’t have the ability to produce. (One further thought, Russia does have influence too, at least on the eastern part of Libya, so maybe they are less than enthusiastic about stanching the flow of African peoples). In any case the events in Libya reflects little on events elsewhere, particularly in light of the Syria, to my knowledge, does not share any border with Africa and the ”West” taking the exactly opposite tack Libya vs. Syria, limited intervention vs. non-intervention. As to the number of refugees from Syria, here’s an article by the BBC from 2016 to refresh your memory, https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34131911. The article is very illuminating overall, but note point number 1. I don’t see Africa listed, although Afghanistan, who you don’t mention comes in a distant second. Such a migration is suggested elsewhere, though it appears in 2014-2015, the primary flow was from the eastern Mediterranean, not central (i.e. Libya).
"I lack the time to read myself through the usual ‘chatter’ about nuking Berlin, London, Paris, and Mars; the 15th announcement of the destruction of 2,000, 6,000, 20,000 ‘Ukrainian nationalists’ in the Olgovska forest; or lectures about ‘moral obsolescence of NATO’ and similar." Tom, I envy you ability to travel in the past to 2022 or 2023, because nowdays none of the serious RU forum will post or discuss such nonsense.
"And somebody else scratched together an entire MIM-23 HAWK SAM-system and this was delivered to Ukraine via Poland this week"
Spanish caravan dilevered this cargo. Since lion's share of Hawk missiles are used against Shaheeds, just wonder how many days it will take to empty the stock.
"Primarily made from components made in the PR China. " Friend in need is a friend indeed. Once again, no matter who will succeed current regime in Moscow, they need to remember who was together with Russia or neutral in this turbulent and crazy time.
"Ukraine deployed ATACMs to hit the 92N6E radar and two launchers of the S-400 SAM-system outside the village of Velyke Zhyrovo".
The word is the system was inoperable and was spotted by UA intel via tic-toc post of one of the soldiers serving the SAM under repair who reported the state of things. Sheer madness....
"the Russians are ‘retaliating’ against the Ukrainian energy sector". Not always that way. Iskander recently hit presumable UA GROM-2 short-range ballistic missile launcher (some say it was Neptune launcher):
https://t.me/faceofwar/44821
Yup. And 800+ other UAVs, ballistic- and cruise missiles targeting the Ukrainian infrastructure in the last 5-6 days alone - simply do not matter, right?
Tom, they target various types of infrustructure. Energy sector looks like a key target, sure thing, but industrial factories, port infrustructure, railway stations, and etc are also targeted. And yes, Iskander mainly aimed at military targets.
Brilliant. Only statement that it is Ukraine that is shooting to itself is missing...
I'll forward your message to all the Ukrainians made homeless or worse - like losing family members, neighbours and similar - due to hits on dozens of apartment buildings. And that the last few days alone. I'm sure they're going to feel much better to hear this didn't happen.
А почему вы решили, что объекты на территории Украины есть ваши законные цели? Кто вы такие?
He's a Russian who decided that if Putin loses this war Russia will fall apart. So, for the sake of Russian imperialism, other people must die.
Просто от их тупости и лицимерия за последние 3 года уже просто тошнит. Люди, не создавшие ничего глобально полезного за последние 30 лет, живущие анахронизмоми и учат нас, украинцев, и весь мир правильно жить...
I remember when I was at university in early 2000s reading that the CIA had reported that American companies had ceased working in American interests as early as 1960s.
And then from 1970s on, those same companies were given huge boosts to their power when governments deregulated and embraced globalisation.
So now those companies have massive power to the point they compromise government sovereignty.
Western governments have become "third world" in that they now serve the interests of companies and not the state.
Here in Australia but from what O have read, USA and NZ, that is also destroying living standards and destroying the middle class.
This applies to foreign policy as well as domestic policy.
Literally a case of the tail wagging the dog
As the old saying goes hard tomes make hard men. Hard men make good times. Good times make soft men. Soft men make hard times.
Thanks for the update. Great news that now at least Ukraine can use Western weapons to hit equipment in Russia proper. Unbelievable that since 2022 Ukraine had to beg for equipment from the West while figuring out ways of destroying Russian military equipment/industry on their own. Shame on the West for this delay.
As a Greek, reading that the government plans to donate all these missiles to Armenia left me speechless.
And the opposition can shout all they want, but they are a minority in the parliament.