Sadovoye Tovarishchestvo is called Glushkovo (just like the town nearby), sadovoye tovarishchestvo or SNT means an allotment for individual gardens, but is usually just a bunch of dachas.
We still don't have a full grasp of the objectives of this operation. If it's to kill russians, put pressure on Putin, boost morale, capture bargaining terrain,capture prisoners, draw troops away and cause chaos...it's still doing this and more 👍
Looking forward to a TV program for the locals about Russia being not a real nation, just a scam by the Golden Horde (also emphasizing that the language is a primitive, corrupted Ukrainian dialect with a lot of Mongol loanwords).
Seems to me there isn't really a lot left for Ukraine to do there.
On the east they created enough space around Sudja (a.k.a. the capital of Novoukraina :)
On the north they established fire control on the main road, making it unusable for Russia.
On the east they have just a few settlements before they control the southern bank of the river. And there isn't any urgency.
So it seems about time for them to slow down and fortify their new gains. Almost any realistic objective they could have had in the area, they've already achieved.
Two UA Kazak IMVs and one BMP-1 destroyed. The latter was taken out by BMP-3 at point-blank range.
After easy victories over border guards, now UA forces are facing equally good troops. The most painful thing for UA side is that RU troops keep on slowly but steadily proceeding advance in Donbass, somewhat disregarding PR-wise unpleasant loss of RU territory.
P.S. Interesting that Uktaine collected for invasion to Kursk region an incredible mixture of various types of armored vehicles, namely 20+.
How heartwarming. I'm thinking of the Russians who believed Putin was protecting them via his "special military operation" but were instead evacuated and turned into beggars. Their priority right now must surely be the PR embarrassment. But at least they're likely happy that Ukrainians got evacuated too, and their great leader conquered a few more ruined houses.
10x less Ukrainian territory changed hands than Russian territory but who cares about Russian territory and population anyway, surely not the wanna-be-Napoleon in the Kremlin.
It does not contradict my idea: both sides are taking similar losses and fighting by small groups. Of course, there are no smashed RU marines battalions or massive RU attacks in general. After striking inintial UA success when "green" RU border guards and reservists were defeated and several hundred prisoners were taken, UA troops are facing now equally good soldiers, further onslaught stuck and numerous skirmishes (including ambushes) are taking place between small groups of belligirents.
It does, because your idea is that both sides are taking similar losses - while the actual situation is that of the Russians having no trace of clue about what's going on, driving into a place already held by Ukrainians, then smashing one of their own BMP-1s or BMP-2s while letting Ukrainians come away, and then doctoring the video so to show 'victory'.
While, actually, they've lost not only that BMP, but the entire village, too.
Pay attentions to two Kazak IMVs destroyed.)))) Village was PRESUMABLY captured by a very small group of UA troops from even smaller group of RU soldiers. Two more RU BMPs and the village will be retaken. That's the scale of fights over there.
Anyway, let's wait and see for futher development of things.
Whoever is using that video to gauge the 'scale of the fighting there', must explain how comes the FSB 'evacuated' 200,000+ Russian civilians out of the area, and why is the VKS meanwhile carpet-bombing entire villages in the Russian Federation.
It is normal procedure to evacuate civilians, what so special about that? Ukrane gracefully did the same recently with population in Sumy region.
As per carpet bombing, sorry, Tom, you can't do that with SU-34. You need at least Backfire for that. Most of UMPK strikes are targeting Kharkov and Sumy regions. But, of course, this does not rule out strikes on RU villages occupied by UA forces.
Mmm... in terms of interpreting things and drawing conclusions, I am impatiently wating for Tom to cover new AB strikes. Some famous TG channels covering ait warfare are so delightfully verbose, so that art of reading between the lines brings to light so rich web of lies and everything. Droping a good background for Morozovsk AN strike back on 15th June :)) And then we can analyse why they (voenkors) do that, means deliberately lie and then cover their lies, and then divert attention by smoke clouds and all. And once you see the system in that, you may filter better what you see and what you not.
Thanks for this update, as the others. While Kursk is important and fascinating, the air war fare as well as Donbas is also important and interesting. Short and focused is fine.
Don't recall ever posting that on FB, so doubt it could've disappeared from there. I did post it in my update from two days ago, though, and the link is sill there:
I like mapy.cz for their top maps but some stuff is better in Googlemaps, e.g. street view, users photos, more details like shops etc. Also, seems to me Googlemaps are better to find some small Ukrainian villages.
Since mapy.cz are from Czech Republic, it's good for CR and near countries (a bit popular in Slovenia, too). Useful is possibility to download offline maps for whole country.
The UK Government and our partners in NATO are leading an international campaign to Make Noise For Ukraine on Ukrainian Independence Day, 24 August.
We must not be silent in the face of Russia’s aggression.
This Ukrainian Independence Day, help us celebrate Ukraine’s bravery and resilience by showing your support on social media.
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Wow! 'That's it!' You summed up an entire theatre of conflict, filled with fact data that I had to read twice to sort of understand. Any more and I would have to take a migraine pill. Grateful as always, Mike
Thanks Tom
Sadovoye Tovarishchestvo is called Glushkovo (just like the town nearby), sadovoye tovarishchestvo or SNT means an allotment for individual gardens, but is usually just a bunch of dachas.
Thanks as always, Tom!
Does the Kursk operation seem to be unfortunately losing momentum or is that just a speedbump?
We still don't have a full grasp of the objectives of this operation. If it's to kill russians, put pressure on Putin, boost morale, capture bargaining terrain,capture prisoners, draw troops away and cause chaos...it's still doing this and more 👍
Claims that Ukraine will hold a referendum to hear if Kursk wants to stay Ukrainian
https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1826672469039874263
"What's that? Is that the sound of the consequences of my own actions coming back to bite me?!?" Putin 😎.
In my country we call that a "wind up" i love it 👍
Looking forward to a TV program for the locals about Russia being not a real nation, just a scam by the Golden Horde (also emphasizing that the language is a primitive, corrupted Ukrainian dialect with a lot of Mongol loanwords).
Seems to me there isn't really a lot left for Ukraine to do there.
On the east they created enough space around Sudja (a.k.a. the capital of Novoukraina :)
On the north they established fire control on the main road, making it unusable for Russia.
On the east they have just a few settlements before they control the southern bank of the river. And there isn't any urgency.
So it seems about time for them to slow down and fortify their new gains. Almost any realistic objective they could have had in the area, they've already achieved.
Good work Tom, as always.
One really does love to hear of Ukraine causing problems for Russia.
Warms the soul 😎👍
Looks that gradually the Kursk incursion is being Donbass’d. Lots of Russians cuddled, lots of equipment destroyed but …
...then hit them' hard somewhere else.
Some news comin'...
We'll know soon enough, I think.
Thanks for this Tom
Thanks for the update
Really looks like some areas of their playground got saturated with russians...
Guess we'll see soon what's next.
A 5 min video from Kursk region that perfectly illustrates losses ratio in head on fights.
https://t.me/zogrussia1/706
Two UA Kazak IMVs and one BMP-1 destroyed. The latter was taken out by BMP-3 at point-blank range.
After easy victories over border guards, now UA forces are facing equally good troops. The most painful thing for UA side is that RU troops keep on slowly but steadily proceeding advance in Donbass, somewhat disregarding PR-wise unpleasant loss of RU territory.
P.S. Interesting that Uktaine collected for invasion to Kursk region an incredible mixture of various types of armored vehicles, namely 20+.
https://t.me/bmpd_cast/20566
A former yugoslavian BOV APC supplied by Slovenia hit by RU fpv drone.
How heartwarming. I'm thinking of the Russians who believed Putin was protecting them via his "special military operation" but were instead evacuated and turned into beggars. Their priority right now must surely be the PR embarrassment. But at least they're likely happy that Ukrainians got evacuated too, and their great leader conquered a few more ruined houses.
10x less Ukrainian territory changed hands than Russian territory but who cares about Russian territory and population anyway, surely not the wanna-be-Napoleon in the Kremlin.
Cannot but recommend watching the ENTIRE video and then in the correct sequence:
https://x.com/giK1893/status/1826537938441654688
....otherwise, one is jumping to wrong conclusions...
But then, that's exactly what's happening to the mass of the 'video, or it didn't happen'-crowd, all the time, and already for decades...
It does not contradict my idea: both sides are taking similar losses and fighting by small groups. Of course, there are no smashed RU marines battalions or massive RU attacks in general. After striking inintial UA success when "green" RU border guards and reservists were defeated and several hundred prisoners were taken, UA troops are facing now equally good soldiers, further onslaught stuck and numerous skirmishes (including ambushes) are taking place between small groups of belligirents.
It does, because your idea is that both sides are taking similar losses - while the actual situation is that of the Russians having no trace of clue about what's going on, driving into a place already held by Ukrainians, then smashing one of their own BMP-1s or BMP-2s while letting Ukrainians come away, and then doctoring the video so to show 'victory'.
While, actually, they've lost not only that BMP, but the entire village, too.
Pay attentions to two Kazak IMVs destroyed.)))) Village was PRESUMABLY captured by a very small group of UA troops from even smaller group of RU soldiers. Two more RU BMPs and the village will be retaken. That's the scale of fights over there.
Anyway, let's wait and see for futher development of things.
Whoever is using that video to gauge the 'scale of the fighting there', must explain how comes the FSB 'evacuated' 200,000+ Russian civilians out of the area, and why is the VKS meanwhile carpet-bombing entire villages in the Russian Federation.
It is normal procedure to evacuate civilians, what so special about that? Ukrane gracefully did the same recently with population in Sumy region.
As per carpet bombing, sorry, Tom, you can't do that with SU-34. You need at least Backfire for that. Most of UMPK strikes are targeting Kharkov and Sumy regions. But, of course, this does not rule out strikes on RU villages occupied by UA forces.
Don't confuse things. What the Ukrainians facing there is a slow saturation.
Russian troop quality is better than before (still safe to forget that 'equally good' thing, though) but their command is the same crap as before.
As it's used to say, 'one swallow doesn't make Summer'. One piece won't make a statistics. Do not rely on a one element sample with unclear context.
Mmm... in terms of interpreting things and drawing conclusions, I am impatiently wating for Tom to cover new AB strikes. Some famous TG channels covering ait warfare are so delightfully verbose, so that art of reading between the lines brings to light so rich web of lies and everything. Droping a good background for Morozovsk AN strike back on 15th June :)) And then we can analyse why they (voenkors) do that, means deliberately lie and then cover their lies, and then divert attention by smoke clouds and all. And once you see the system in that, you may filter better what you see and what you not.
Thanks for this update, as the others. While Kursk is important and fascinating, the air war fare as well as Donbas is also important and interesting. Short and focused is fine.
Ty tom for the update and analysis of the multitude of data you have to sift through.
Thanks Tom for the update, the ability to use ATACMS would really help the ZSU in the Kursk area to degrade the VSRF reinforcements and log support.
Your facebook story about Czech ammo has disappeared before I could read it. Can you post it here pretty please.
Don't recall ever posting that on FB, so doubt it could've disappeared from there. I did post it in my update from two days ago, though, and the link is sill there:
https://xxtomcooperxx.substack.com/p/ukraine-war-21-august-2024
Hey Tom, thank you for the update. Have you tried this Czech map for monitoring developments:
https://en.mapy.cz/turisticka?x=34.8761981&y=51.3315109&z=11
When you switch it to the outdoor mode, there is a lot of detail regarding the terrain. I find it very useful, much better than Google maps.
Thx.
Nope, never heard of it before. BTW, Google Maps has also 'terrain' features etc. I'm just turning them off to de-saturate the map.
I like mapy.cz for their top maps but some stuff is better in Googlemaps, e.g. street view, users photos, more details like shops etc. Also, seems to me Googlemaps are better to find some small Ukrainian villages.
Since mapy.cz are from Czech Republic, it's good for CR and near countries (a bit popular in Slovenia, too). Useful is possibility to download offline maps for whole country.
The UK Government and our partners in NATO are leading an international campaign to Make Noise For Ukraine on Ukrainian Independence Day, 24 August.
We must not be silent in the face of Russia’s aggression.
This Ukrainian Independence Day, help us celebrate Ukraine’s bravery and resilience by showing your support on social media.
Organisations and members of the public are encouraged to join our campaign by posting a video making noise for Ukraine on social media with the hashtag #MakeNoiseForUkraine.
Please post your video on 24 August 2024, Ukrainian Independence Day.
You can make noise in any way you like: clap or cheer, play an instrument, sing a song, stomp your feet or ring a bell. You could also shout ‘Slava Ukraini’ – Glory to Ukraine!
Wow! 'That's it!' You summed up an entire theatre of conflict, filled with fact data that I had to read twice to sort of understand. Any more and I would have to take a migraine pill. Grateful as always, Mike