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Andrii's avatar

Even I remember that the hospital and the cluster munitions were explicitly mentioned "couple of days ago"...

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Harry Mann's avatar

You don’t really believe Iran could hit a specific target like a hospital if they wanted to, do you? That was pretty obviously a mis-hit of another target or just a fairly random shot into the general area.

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Sarcastosaurus's avatar

Yup. That's my fault - because you didn't read the latest updates.

BTW, shall I go on with details on Israeli strikes on 8 hospitals and ambulances, plus one emergency centre in Iran? About 700+ massacred Iranian civilians...?

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James Coffey's avatar

Killing civilians through a bombing campaign: good way to unite the citizenry of a nation around its government, even an awful government such as that theocracy. Donald Trump, MIGA. Go figure ....

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James Coffey's avatar

Oh BTW, when I typed MIGA I meant M"Iran"GA in sarcasm [ok amateur(ish) sarcasm **LOL**], but I suddenly realize that it just as well could have meant M"Israel"GA in even more amateurish sarcasm. **ROFLMAO**

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Instajoule's avatar

I think the only thing we can be sure of at this point is that none of this would have happened if Trump had been president.

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Roland Davis's avatar

That's the highest number of likes I have seen on this forum - and it was a delightful comment!

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aladdin's avatar

"As for Esfahan, the locals are report ‘nothing special’ was hit, nor happened."

Footage which appears to show several BGM-109 “Tomahawk” Land-Attack Cruise Missiles (TLAMs), launched by U.S. Navy submarines in the Middle East, striking the Isfahan Nuclear Facility tonight in Central Iran, was geo-confirmed

https://xcancel.com/Mitch_Ulrich/status/1936600655936069776#m

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Sarcastosaurus's avatar

Thx. Haven't seen that yet.

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Chris P.'s avatar

Patience is a virtue, someone should tell Mr. Trump that. 😅

I just don't even begin to understand what the exit strategy is for Israel, and even more so for the USA. Maybe not Trump and Bibi themselves, but some smart person around them must have raised the question: "And then? How do we finish what we started?"

That seems beyond my grasp, but as I said, patience is a virtue, and I'll wait, drink tea, and wait for Tom's next update. ✌🏻🍵

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Oskar Krempl's avatar

He simply wouldn't understand it. Too demanding for his mental capability.

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Марченко Сергей's avatar

Thanks Tom. It is known from media reports that Trump/America does nothing without benefit (this was, in particular, the background of the infamous rare earth metals agreement). Question. What benefit does Trump/America gain from supporting such an impudent regional terrorist as Israel, if there is NO return from it - only problems and expenses with no end in sight? Ukraine was ready to become almost an American state, but the States rudely pushed it away, leaving it without support!

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Sarcastosaurus's avatar

What Dumpf & Co are doing in the public is always a distraction from their actual aims - like playing the markets so to earn more from the gambling there, and extracting yet more profit out of taxpayer's pockets (primarily for businesses like Boeing, X etc).

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Roland Davis's avatar

To answer this question, which in any normal situation would be a very sensible one, you have to redefine benefit for America as benefit for Israel. It's like asking a cluster of pancreatic cancer cells what benefit they bring the body they live in.

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Marmot's avatar

Trump does not care about benefit for USA, he cares about benefit for himself. Mind that since the start of his government, there was no one week without world media mentioning him. And that's great, isn't it?

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James Coffey's avatar

"... he cares about benefit for himself." Such as satisfying his twisted ego. Now nobody can call him the TACO president.

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Hans Torvatn's avatar

Here Trump is played by Netanyahu. Trump could not avoid supporting Israel in this. He could have played it smarter, gotten Congressional support or something, but after Israel’s attack he could avoid supporting. USA first, but Israel firstest.

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James Touza's avatar

A lot of the Israel lobby, both Jewish Zionists and Christian Zionists have sent money to the trump crime family. Earlier this year Pakistan invested in the trump crime family bit coin con, which is why the Pak Chief of Staff was in the White House to thank T by nominating him for the Nobel Pizza Prize. And when people hear about this in the future they won’t believe it.

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Roy's avatar

Amazingly (well, maybe not so much) there are people “in responsible positions” out there who imagine that this will end well.

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Sarcastosaurus's avatar

Indeed: about 80% of EU diplomats these days, are still busy trying to convince Dumpf to resume supporting Ukraine...

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Moriarty's avatar

This will never happen under any circumstances. The Trump team operates in a single paradigm of serving Moscow and money. This is all they are interested in. And the main interests of the American and Moscow moneybags in this matter are completely the same: to destroy the current conventionally civilized world in order to make fortunes as looters on this destruction.

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Moriarty's avatar

Well, Netanyahu and the Israeli lobby in the US, together with the local oligarchy, all these Bezos, Zuckerbergs, Millers, and the financial part of the Kremlin elites, who are practically all Jews, they brought Trump a good bribe. For example, Putin and the Jew Sechin sold a 19.5% stake in Rosneft for $10 billion in 2016 and transferred the money to Trump through shell companies and in cryptocurrency for lifting sanctions, recognizing the territory of Crimea as Russian, and turning a blind eye to what the Kremlin is doing in Ukraine. It's hard to imagine how many billions this eternal bankrupt and eternal debtor Trump has received this time.

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Al Ka's avatar

Good to know that there are absolutely no antisemitic conspiracy theories being tolerated on this substack.

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Moriarty's avatar

Oh, well, yes... if you constantly brand everyone, constantly accuse them of anti-Semitism, Nazism, fascism, then force them to endlessly justify themselves, censor everything that differs from your opinion, not accepting any other opinion, then there will be less "extremism" and "anti-Semitism". Telling people the truth is also extremism and anti-Semitism, right? Everyone has the right to their own opinion. Each person decides how to think and what to think about, and this is absolutely normal. It's different when someone commits some real actions that harm others. I wouldn't want to live in a world where people are tried for thoughtcrime. Especially in the world of liberal censored, where any other opinion is immediately suppressed. They simply destroy it, showing their liberal animalistic fangs.

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Al Ka's avatar

Not everyone, just your comment above specifically.

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Moriarty's avatar

Just my comment above? Do you mean the comment where I linked Russian financial elites and some US elites to Trump and the Netanyahu clan? I don't see any anti-Semitism here, but only a clear logical connection between money and certain people, which is confirmed by real facts. It's not my fault that these people are financial swindlers, looters, fraudsters, outright criminals, or murderers who are connected and realize themselves in life at the expense of others. Elementary logic allows us to trace all these connections between them, which are then confirmed in reality by real facts. Honestly, I don't care who you think I am, I will stick to my opinion.

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Oskar Krempl's avatar

At the moment only very little information is actually available, but this excellent update makes the most out of it (and it is the best one, which I could find till now).

Some additionla small pieces of information I could find (could be that they were alraedy metioned in some of updates; but that would be my fault) plus some of my own conclusions:

1) The regional warmonger number 1 Bibi moved himself and the state Israel into a groundless

swamp.

2) China delivered something into Iran with at least 3 planes.

3) Some Iranian planes did fly into the RF to pick up something.

4) Some 'expert' Israel fanboy still talk about the coming regime change in Iran. Cannot remember

a single time that it worked just by attacking a state and it's population from the air. Maybe

someone can help me?

5) Those same expert(s) talk about the fanatism in Iran but cannot see any fanatism in Israel.

6) Still unclear to me how much the 'orange clown' is willing to make himself a complete bad joke

and lead the USA into another war.

7) I expect that Bibi and Trump will get the exact opposite of what they tried to impede (i.e. Iranian

nukes) and Iran will by far not the only state trying to get nukes.

8) All of this happens short before Israel is finishing it's own nuclear triad (with the help of

Germany).

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James Coffey's avatar

Regarding 7), so much for nonproliferation. A lesson re-learned once again. Nations that possess nuclear weapons don't get invaded by the U.S., Israel, Russia (hah!), China .... I bet that Ukraine regrets ... well you know the rest. Also perhaps the reason why No. Korea, the nation run by an evil family, possesses nuclear weapons.

The former-TACO president may have opened Pandora's Box.

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Stephen ONeill's avatar

Whom the Gods wish to destroy, they first make mad.

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James Coffey's avatar

Yeah, I guess that this makes Trump a modern day Nebuchadnezzar.

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Federico's avatar

The only thing that is certain is geography. So: there is an ocean between Iran and the USA, Iran can only project power to Washington in an asymmetric way and Europe finds itself having to gather the refugees who are fleeing this madness and be the adult in the room.

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Bill Flarsheim's avatar

Thanks for letting us know what you can actually confirm. It makes it easier to handle all of the MSM jabbering about things the administration is claiming. Look forward to a time when you will know more about the situation on the ground in Iran.

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Martin Whitener's avatar

OOOHH LORDY......IT'S HAPPININ' AG'IN!!!!!

See Tom.....I told you Friday night I had 'concerns.'

:oP

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Herman's avatar

"Of course, official Tehran - for example the Speaker of the Majlis - reacted with statements like, ‘The response to America is inevitable, and the first step is the destruction of Israel’."

Iranian rhetoric is really just playing into the hands of its enemies.

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