I strongly disagree with the report on a much lower UA losses. The UK started to press Zelensky to introduce the ~ 18 year old segment to the conscription in the Summer, now the UA military press for this, too.
After advertising the opportunity for women to serve on the front, the first non-auxiliary looking casualty in a trench I have seen: https://t.me/The_Wrong_Side/13087
The publication of a video of an UA AFV crushing a wounded RU soldier inducted posting of videos of maiming UA soldiers with UAVs after this post on the timeline: https://t.me/rosich_ru/53149 It is unbelievable how many grenades dropped on single soldiers.
This is not "slavs killing slavs". This is: the subjects of the russian empire (AKA federation) including Muslims, Turkic, Caucasian and Mongolic people came to my land to kill us. both-sidism helps putin's narrative. Shame on you.
You forgot to list the minorities in Ukraine who also fight - so characteristic :) But it will soon change as USA is leaving the chat and the EU remains as main supporter - see Farion's fall and the signaling of putting the minority language use to the agenda.
This is not the same: Ukrainian minorities are a part of Ukrainian political nation, no matter their language or ethnic origin. Whereas in russia, they are just subjugated peoples, servingaz a disposable means for achieving empire's goals. I wish you die in a russian GULAG, where all russian patriot belong
No problem with your disagreement, Adam. Just, what the UK gov is babbling around, is not relevant in terms of supporting your standpoint.
What would be relevant would be more statements (whether in private or released via videos in the social media, for example) by ZSU officers making such demands. So far, have seen 'only' two.
Quite detailed on the issue from the point of immigration
"According to the Ministry of Defence, the certificate for military registration covers a specific area and applies to the age category of 18–27, who are exempted from mobilisation."
"Hence, men reaching the age of 27 are obliged under the regulations for mobilisation. "
As Ukrainian I have to add that Zaluzhnyi is talking about legal ways to evade mobilization like becoming a student. 2022 saw a record increase in student numbers because of it.
I'm 27 years old myself and I'm seeing thousands of able-bodied men drinking smoothies in cafes. I don't know anyone who was mobilized and I've never seen anyone being forced to IRL. The problem is not the lack of men, the problem is that the state that never tried to be authoritarian, that has corruption problems and has zero experience in mobilizing people lets a lot of them slip through. Men who wanted to fight joined already, now the government is left with men who are not eager to. However by allowing to mobilize 18-27 year olds the army would get more men just because the mobilization pool becomes bigger.
- sending the youth to the front before semi-raising children is a huge future population loss. Hungary crashed 250-300 years after it's soldier-age population got huge blows during the Turkish wars.
- on the other hand we are East, so the health and military ability of the middle aged men decreases quickly
- I agree with the Hebrews in the Bible: what good is in sending those who don't want to fight into war? Quite a lot of soldiers lost to neglect of basic military know-how, who thought they would survive by keeping a low profile and do nothing.
"sending the youth to the front before semi-raising children"
I'm not proposing doing that. I think it's better to leave them be. I'm simply explaining the situation in Ukraine.
"what good is in sending those who don't want to fight into war"
20th century shows that it works.
And not because army breaks men's will but because the majority now and before are specifically "not eager to fight", not "don't want to". The majority won't make a decision to leave their safe life behind. However if the decision is made for them they do not protest. This is the reason men say: "I would if I was told to" to the question: "Would you fight to defend your country?". I've seen a street poll in Russia where even during the war men replied that.
a) the serious one: Is Shariy convicted for anything? Accusation is one thing, conviction is another in the rules-based international system. Also does for example Luc Montagnier's view of pathogens spreading via radio waves nulls his work on the HIV virus? Do we watch what is said or who is saying? What did the Spanish court said about this link?
b) the not serious one: It does not count, never did.
How can Ukraine not have much lower losses when Russia is sending thousands of men in meat grinder assaults almost every day? If Ukraine was doing something similar you'd be right
Based on the content of your own posts, I strongly doubt you understand fundamental differences between the ways the ZSU is running its raiding-attacks, and the VSRF/VDV are running their 'meat attacks'.
Sure, time and again, Ukrainians are making mistakes. Including really dumb mistakes. But, that's no system in the ZSU, like it is in the VSRF and, meanwhile, even the VDV.
Meat assaults? Which country is this from: "From now on, people with clinically cured tuberculosis, viral hepatitis, slowly progressing blood diseases, thyroid gland diseases with minor functional disorders, and those who are HIV-positive but without symptoms, are considered still fit for military service. In addition, people suffering from mild mental disorders, neurotic disorders, slowly progressive diseases of the central nervous system and others have been added to the list."
Daily ~ 300k soldiers at the front per side, Russian losses estimated eight times higher...
I will just add that the soldiers that the last part of this text is about Are Czech volunteers and you can donate through the Twitter/X link to help them buy a specially upgraded truck that will help them get rid of more drones
I strongly disagree with the report on a much lower UA losses. The UK started to press Zelensky to introduce the ~ 18 year old segment to the conscription in the Summer, now the UA military press for this, too.
After advertising the opportunity for women to serve on the front, the first non-auxiliary looking casualty in a trench I have seen: https://t.me/The_Wrong_Side/13087
Russians introduced a new cluster bomb with JDAM-like controls: https://t.me/fighter_bomber/14762 https://t.me/fighter_bomber/13109
Artillery density: The road from Chasov Yar to Bahmut: https://t.me/romanov_92/42435
Second, three-piece strike on the village where the ceremony of the 128th was struck: https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/8770295.html
The publication of a video of an UA AFV crushing a wounded RU soldier inducted posting of videos of maiming UA soldiers with UAVs after this post on the timeline: https://t.me/rosich_ru/53149 It is unbelievable how many grenades dropped on single soldiers.
the post with ladies looks like complete set up and bullshit.
No one cares for you pro-russian opinion. P.S: it's "Chasiv Yar". Russian trolls or useful idiots are not welcomed here.
And who are you to welcome anyone here? I have no stake in slavs killing slavs, also I hope you are in uniform and not just fighting on the Internet.
This is not "slavs killing slavs". This is: the subjects of the russian empire (AKA federation) including Muslims, Turkic, Caucasian and Mongolic people came to my land to kill us. both-sidism helps putin's narrative. Shame on you.
You forgot to list the minorities in Ukraine who also fight - so characteristic :) But it will soon change as USA is leaving the chat and the EU remains as main supporter - see Farion's fall and the signaling of putting the minority language use to the agenda.
This is not the same: Ukrainian minorities are a part of Ukrainian political nation, no matter their language or ethnic origin. Whereas in russia, they are just subjugated peoples, servingaz a disposable means for achieving empire's goals. I wish you die in a russian GULAG, where all russian patriot belong
What I, inferior to dogs, know about political nations and empires... Live long and prosper!
No problem with your disagreement, Adam. Just, what the UK gov is babbling around, is not relevant in terms of supporting your standpoint.
What would be relevant would be more statements (whether in private or released via videos in the social media, for example) by ZSU officers making such demands. So far, have seen 'only' two.
Is https://infographics.economist.com/2023/ExternalContent/ZALUZHNYI_FULL_VERSION.pdf
" gaps in legislation that seem to legally evade mobilization" one of them?
versus
https://us.dk/media/10597/ukraine_coi-ffm-report-june-2023.pdf
Quite detailed on the issue from the point of immigration
"According to the Ministry of Defence, the certificate for military registration covers a specific area and applies to the age category of 18–27, who are exempted from mobilisation."
"Hence, men reaching the age of 27 are obliged under the regulations for mobilisation. "
versus
https://kyivindependent.com/ukraines-parliament-lowers-maximum-conscription-age-for-military-service/
"This system leads to additional unnecessary expenses and makes it impossible to mobilize people aged 25-27 for the war effort, the ministry said. "
As Ukrainian I have to add that Zaluzhnyi is talking about legal ways to evade mobilization like becoming a student. 2022 saw a record increase in student numbers because of it.
I'm 27 years old myself and I'm seeing thousands of able-bodied men drinking smoothies in cafes. I don't know anyone who was mobilized and I've never seen anyone being forced to IRL. The problem is not the lack of men, the problem is that the state that never tried to be authoritarian, that has corruption problems and has zero experience in mobilizing people lets a lot of them slip through. Men who wanted to fight joined already, now the government is left with men who are not eager to. However by allowing to mobilize 18-27 year olds the army would get more men just because the mobilization pool becomes bigger.
I agree, but I see the following problems:
- sending the youth to the front before semi-raising children is a huge future population loss. Hungary crashed 250-300 years after it's soldier-age population got huge blows during the Turkish wars.
- on the other hand we are East, so the health and military ability of the middle aged men decreases quickly
- I agree with the Hebrews in the Bible: what good is in sending those who don't want to fight into war? Quite a lot of soldiers lost to neglect of basic military know-how, who thought they would survive by keeping a low profile and do nothing.
"sending the youth to the front before semi-raising children"
I'm not proposing doing that. I think it's better to leave them be. I'm simply explaining the situation in Ukraine.
"what good is in sending those who don't want to fight into war"
20th century shows that it works.
And not because army breaks men's will but because the majority now and before are specifically "not eager to fight", not "don't want to". The majority won't make a decision to leave their safe life behind. However if the decision is made for them they do not protest. This is the reason men say: "I would if I was told to" to the question: "Would you fight to defend your country?". I've seen a street poll in Russia where even during the war men replied that.
Personally, this is my attitude too.
Also, just read this but without source: https://t.me/ASupersharij/25437 Lets see if it surfaces again in a few days
Citing Shariy, man who was arrested in Spain and is still under investigation certainly adds "veil of competence" to your posts :-))
Well, Stepan Bandera was arrested and under investigation, too...
With all due respect, what does that guy from last century has to do in this case?
Even if he "theoretically" would be involved, I do not quote him, unlike you do.
Your guy is a proven "fake factory", my point was that posting his links you are discrediting yourself.
My point was:
a) the serious one: Is Shariy convicted for anything? Accusation is one thing, conviction is another in the rules-based international system. Also does for example Luc Montagnier's view of pathogens spreading via radio waves nulls his work on the HIV virus? Do we watch what is said or who is saying? What did the Spanish court said about this link?
b) the not serious one: It does not count, never did.
How can Ukraine not have much lower losses when Russia is sending thousands of men in meat grinder assaults almost every day? If Ukraine was doing something similar you'd be right
Aren't they are still counterattacking? Near Verbovoye / Rabotino, the bridgehead(s) on the Dnieper?
Yes but not foolishly which is why in some cases Russia has captured land.
Based on the content of your own posts, I strongly doubt you understand fundamental differences between the ways the ZSU is running its raiding-attacks, and the VSRF/VDV are running their 'meat attacks'.
Sure, time and again, Ukrainians are making mistakes. Including really dumb mistakes. But, that's no system in the ZSU, like it is in the VSRF and, meanwhile, even the VDV.
Meat assaults? Which country is this from: "From now on, people with clinically cured tuberculosis, viral hepatitis, slowly progressing blood diseases, thyroid gland diseases with minor functional disorders, and those who are HIV-positive but without symptoms, are considered still fit for military service. In addition, people suffering from mild mental disorders, neurotic disorders, slowly progressive diseases of the central nervous system and others have been added to the list."
Daily ~ 300k soldiers at the front per side, Russian losses estimated eight times higher...
I will just add that the soldiers that the last part of this text is about Are Czech volunteers and you can donate through the Twitter/X link to help them buy a specially upgraded truck that will help them get rid of more drones