Everything that Putin has put forward in his demands for the terms of negotiations with Ukraine is 100% contrary to the content of Ukraine's security agreements with 17 countries. Why then is Russia announcing this to the whole world, knowing that no one will accept it?
Knowing from the beginning that such conditions are unacceptable, just like the demand that NATO "withdraw to the 1997 borders”.
The impression is that he is making it impossible for himself to retreat.
We expect escalation, but what will it be like?
An attempt to provoke NATO members before the Washington summit?
I agree with the conclusions in the second reply, but I have a little remark. Ukraine has capabilities to design a guided/ballistic missile, but the most vulnerable point is the staff. A little salary doesn't engage young specialists, especially if you can earn more money to collect strawberries in the EU. The average age of the engineer staff is approaching 55 years.
There's a similar situation in Russia, as far as I know, the brightest engineers prefer to work for Gazprom and similar companies instead of Roscosmos.
I wouldn't be surprised if the average age of Roscosmos personnel is above fifty years
I mean, you can predict what they'll do next by tracking the evolution of their rhetoric, but at this point all that matters is Ukraine getting a whole lot more kit.
Also a Zala equivalent with some proximity fused rockets or even a sawed off double barrel shotgun slung underneath. It isn't like the orc pilots have great situational awareness. Carry one of those radio alert devices and have several operators looking through cameras to spot a target. The Germans did all kinds of clever stuff to get at bombers during the Defense of the Reich Campaign. Air defense drone pilots don't even have to risk their lives.
Yo me tomo los dichos de Putin como un intento débil y desesperado de terminar la guerra debido a sus fracasos tras otros de su "operación militar especial", pero manteniendo todavía sus caprichos personales.
Como decimos en Argentina, no le den bola (ignorenlo).
I cannot tell you the details, but ALL positions of the 46th brigade in Georgiivka are still under control. Cleaning is carried out, the results are not bad
How are the Russians unable to shot down the ATACMS, Storm Shadows and other systems pummelling their S300/400s over Crimea and elsewhere without even being able to intercept any of the incoming missiles?
They are able...in May at leasr two video surfaced of Storm Shadow hit.
Problem is that it's not a single
Atacams/SS being launched. Several missiles usually being flavoured with many UAVs and dummies like MALDs. In that famous S-400 destruction by ATACAMs only 1 out of 6 missiles broke thru (4 were intercepted, 1 went alstray), however, even one was enough.
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In that case they're still obsolete if they can't stop attacks getting through. Missile swarms have been a thing since the 1960s. In fact Soviets kind of pioneered them -eg multiple Fast Attack Crafts with P-15 Termit AShMs or whole regiments of Tu-22s packing Kh-22 against US carrier groups.
So the fact the Russian systems can't handle lower volumes of western missiles speaks wonders.
And now imagine fighting the US - eg US used 50+ missiles to attack one Syrian airbase in 2017!
So if S400 can't stop 3 ATACMS (according to latest info), then how is it going to stop 50+.
The Ukrainian air defences seem far more adept at shutting down Russian attacks. Though to be fair most Russian weapons being used are obsolete in modern air defence environments - Kh101, Shahed, Kalibr.
Instead of banning this propagandist, you’re replying to his comments. Does this mean you support his anti-ukrainian position and the fake information that he spreads, like this one?
I can see it's not the first time you're involved in the discussion with this account.
EDIT: the page this account was referring to was about romanian football fans supporting pudding. Now the article on mirror.co.uk is removed because it was completely ruzzian fake.
That's simple. It's called 'research and development, Russian style'.
Essentially, there was a big fight between two design bureaus developing S-300s. So, one of them then brought a S-300 system to Kapustin Yar testing ground, fired 14-15 old R-17 ('Scud') tactical ballistic missiles 'at it'. With everything positioned under ideal conditions, the system then shot down some 10 or so of these.
Correspondingly, the system was declared for 'capable of shooting down ballistic missiles'. The rest was then the PRBS: with every additional report, the S-300, and then the S-400, was declared 'ever better and better' - and the West simply bought the story, without any kind of cross-examination.
And, certainly enough: the S-300 and S-400 could shot down - but 70-years-old R-17s, BUT not even the Western tactical ballistic missiles of the 1980s-1990s (like ATACMS).
Thank you for informing on things nobody else is.
Everything that Putin has put forward in his demands for the terms of negotiations with Ukraine is 100% contrary to the content of Ukraine's security agreements with 17 countries. Why then is Russia announcing this to the whole world, knowing that no one will accept it?
Knowing from the beginning that such conditions are unacceptable, just like the demand that NATO "withdraw to the 1997 borders”.
The impression is that he is making it impossible for himself to retreat.
We expect escalation, but what will it be like?
An attempt to provoke NATO members before the Washington summit?
I agree with the conclusions in the second reply, but I have a little remark. Ukraine has capabilities to design a guided/ballistic missile, but the most vulnerable point is the staff. A little salary doesn't engage young specialists, especially if you can earn more money to collect strawberries in the EU. The average age of the engineer staff is approaching 55 years.
There's a similar situation in Russia, as far as I know, the brightest engineers prefer to work for Gazprom and similar companies instead of Roscosmos.
I wouldn't be surprised if the average age of Roscosmos personnel is above fifty years
Thank you Tom!
"sometimes in the future, concepts like ‘swarms of AI-controlled UAVs’ are going to take over and then ‘eat’ any kind of Zalas"
Or do the whole SEAD/SEEW campaign on the whole frontline sector, with use of something like these: https://infozahyst.com/en/product/gekata_eng/
Though I am still hearing that these would be "soon" deployed, but not yet. :(
USS is quite busy with Sharks and PDs models now. So, i think this model might be postponed for future.
Antidrone warfare has to be based on UAV solution, cheapest possible.
ZSU uses FPVs vs Zala/Orlans. Lets see the outcome
Correct response to:
Putin - Ignore
Trump - Ignore
Biden - Ignore
Scholz - Ignore
Macron - Ignore
I mean, you can predict what they'll do next by tracking the evolution of their rhetoric, but at this point all that matters is Ukraine getting a whole lot more kit.
Also a Zala equivalent with some proximity fused rockets or even a sawed off double barrel shotgun slung underneath. It isn't like the orc pilots have great situational awareness. Carry one of those radio alert devices and have several operators looking through cameras to spot a target. The Germans did all kinds of clever stuff to get at bombers during the Defense of the Reich Campaign. Air defense drone pilots don't even have to risk their lives.
In politics, it's better to watch the actions, not the rhetoric.
It's like watching where the ball is instead of the football players
> "Zala equivalent with some proximity fused rockets"
- Bairaktar TB2
Yo me tomo los dichos de Putin como un intento débil y desesperado de terminar la guerra debido a sus fracasos tras otros de su "operación militar especial", pero manteniendo todavía sus caprichos personales.
Como decimos en Argentina, no le den bola (ignorenlo).
“corporations like Yuzhmash and/or Pvdenmash”
Tom, it is the same organization: Yug/Pivden are Ru/Ua equivalents for South. So, Southern machinery plant
Thanks for clearing this! I've found so many references mentioning both, that it really confused me.
"Aero L-29 Delfin training jets (...) served as jet trainers in all of the Warsaw Pact air forces"
Almost all. Poland developed and used its own locally produced jet trainer PZL TS-11 Iskra.
Ya esperaba ese comentario.
I cannot tell you the details, but ALL positions of the 46th brigade in Georgiivka are still under control. Cleaning is carried out, the results are not bad
Oh, that's good to hear, thanks!
How are the Russians unable to shot down the ATACMS, Storm Shadows and other systems pummelling their S300/400s over Crimea and elsewhere without even being able to intercept any of the incoming missiles?
Are Russian S300/400s essentially obsolete then?
They are able...in May at leasr two video surfaced of Storm Shadow hit.
Problem is that it's not a single
Atacams/SS being launched. Several missiles usually being flavoured with many UAVs and dummies like MALDs. In that famous S-400 destruction by ATACAMs only 1 out of 6 missiles broke thru (4 were intercepted, 1 went alstray), however, even one was enough.
To all who read the comment from this person. This account is ruzzian troll/propagandist, who spreads anti-ukrainian propaganda and deliberately posts fake information. This account uses the information from ruzzian state propagandist resources and so called Z-voenkors (ruzzian war correspondents) as a proof.
Moreover this account uses hate speech for humilitating ukrainians and everything that is pro-ukrainian.
I urge you to ignore his comments and ask Tom to block him.
In that case they're still obsolete if they can't stop attacks getting through. Missile swarms have been a thing since the 1960s. In fact Soviets kind of pioneered them -eg multiple Fast Attack Crafts with P-15 Termit AShMs or whole regiments of Tu-22s packing Kh-22 against US carrier groups.
So the fact the Russian systems can't handle lower volumes of western missiles speaks wonders.
And now imagine fighting the US - eg US used 50+ missiles to attack one Syrian airbase in 2017!
So if S400 can't stop 3 ATACMS (according to latest info), then how is it going to stop 50+.
The Ukrainian air defences seem far more adept at shutting down Russian attacks. Though to be fair most Russian weapons being used are obsolete in modern air defence environments - Kh101, Shahed, Kalibr.
Yes, but: the Storm Shadows in question were shot down by Pantsyrs, Tors or Buks, not by S-300s or S-400s.
I agree, most likely, cruise missiles were taken by SHORADs.
S-300/400 downed some ATACAMS but indeed looks like massive attack with 6-8 missiles can't be coped with.
Guess S-300V4 should be tested as a solution.
Instead of banning this propagandist, you’re replying to his comments. Does this mean you support his anti-ukrainian position and the fake information that he spreads, like this one?
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I can see it's not the first time you're involved in the discussion with this account.
EDIT: the page this account was referring to was about romanian football fans supporting pudding. Now the article on mirror.co.uk is removed because it was completely ruzzian fake.
To be honest I doubt Pantsyr has ever shot anything down. Three wars now and it's proven to be a useless shit heap.
How comes?
That's simple. It's called 'research and development, Russian style'.
Essentially, there was a big fight between two design bureaus developing S-300s. So, one of them then brought a S-300 system to Kapustin Yar testing ground, fired 14-15 old R-17 ('Scud') tactical ballistic missiles 'at it'. With everything positioned under ideal conditions, the system then shot down some 10 or so of these.
Correspondingly, the system was declared for 'capable of shooting down ballistic missiles'. The rest was then the PRBS: with every additional report, the S-300, and then the S-400, was declared 'ever better and better' - and the West simply bought the story, without any kind of cross-examination.
And, certainly enough: the S-300 and S-400 could shot down - but 70-years-old R-17s, BUT not even the Western tactical ballistic missiles of the 1980s-1990s (like ATACMS).
Thanks for the detailed answer.
Turkey, China, India, Algeria, Vietnam and a whole heap of S300/400 customers must be feeling very ripped off right now!
That Google Maps position shows a panorama of a square, not airbase.
That's all that's left of the former base: the former tarmac. Taxiways and runways are meanwhile ruined.
No Tom, that's literally the town's square. With a monument and a concert hall behind the camera. I just checked the link again.
Thanks Tom interesting report and I like the video slide show of the old airbase
Some sources think Motor Sich was selling stuff to the Russians much longer than that: https://jamestown.org/program/the-motor-sich-factory-and-its-covert-ties-to-russia/