Discussion about this post

User's avatar
PeterL's avatar

Thing is, if this is a PR operation then the most striking thing about it is the absense of PR. Ukraine isn't publicizing this at all, we're learning everything from the Russian side. Which does lead to thinking that Ukraine is pursuing actual military objectives there - something like raiding Russian supplies (there's a railway line nearby) or capturing positions that later Russia will have to retake. Because all the reporting is a mess of Russian panic and propaganda it's not even clear if the Ukrainians are there to try and occupy positions or just to destroy some stuff and retreat.

Regardless, I think it's doubtful the troops there could have helped much in the east. After all even if Ukraine wasn't attacking it would still have to keep some troops around Sumy for defence, it cannot empty the border.

Andrew Tanner's avatar

With the Vovcha line breached, Ukrainian forces on the Pokrovsk axis need to pull back a few kilometers anyway. A nice ridge runs west of the Vovcha before curving back towards Pokrovsk.

One brigade deployed to conduct a brief raid is a good use of resources if it forces Putin to move reserves otherwise allocated to the Pokrovsk-Toretsk-Chasiv Yar advance. Every time Ukraine does this, Moscow spends months reinforcing the border and building fortification lines. An Iskander was used against a bunch of abandoned MRAPs inside russia - one less to drop on a hospital in Kyiv.

So far I've not seen Bradleys or Strykers (Sullivan would wet himself if heavy US gear is widely used in russia), only BTRs and MRAPs. But I honestly can't tell wheeled APCs apart from drone feeds.

The other neat thing about ops like this is that every orc reserve unit deployed is walking into a HIMARS trap. Even when Ukraine pulls all its troops back, the orcs will lose people and gear securing the border area. Then Ukraine does it again somewhere else.

48 more comments...

No posts

Ready for more?