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Instajoule's avatar

I met an ex-ZDF officer who was in a group (I forget how many but was less than 130) that was cut off long-term. What he told me matches what you've reported - their opposition was led intelligently enough to, for example, choose the timing of attacks for when they figured ZDF morale would be lowest, and they were outnumbered, but their training and discipline absolutely saved them. They also knew that they weren't exchanging with "professional soldiers" and that surrender was certain to be unpleasantly fatal.

He was subsequently decorated by Mugabe personally and experienced the guy's charisma.

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When I visited Yarvoriv Training Area, we were training roughly reinforced battalion task force a month. The training area couldn't do a full BDE, it may be able to now don't know, so the BDE would pick a battalion and send along extra parts from other units to maximize the training effect. The idea was that the Bn trained could go back and spread the learning and training to the rest of the unit. I found out while there that what was happening in most cases (some exceptions though) was that once back the commanders of the BDE's spent considerable amounts of effort making sure none of the training was passed along. Reasons varied. In some cases it was flat out "I don't get it, and I don't want to look bad", in others it was lack of resources. This could have been fixed if the General Staff had been more direct in ordering units to listen to the guys who were trained and were trying to pass things along. But as you said, lots of the guys in the GS didn't get it, and didn't want to try. Easier to stop it and smile at the allies and go "Thank you so much! We have learned so much from you." I know that a lot of behind the scenes fighting was going on as the forward thinkers were trying hard to push for change, but there were a lot of issues to address and fix so where do you even start? Especially when you are technically still fighting a war in the east. No easy solution.

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