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Tom's avatar

I'm following a couple of "Russia-understanding" folks in the English and Polish (my mother tongue) social media, and try to read some "not-for-export" propaganda (Julia Davis has a great Twitter account for it), and the propaganda line is sth like "Ukrainians failed in their most recent offensive, which means they will never be able to conduct one in the future, which means they cannot defend", ie. two huge leap-of-faith non sequiturs. I'm wondering if the political leadership in Kremlin hasn't bought into this as well.

The second theme is that it's the dastardly West that pushes Ukrainians to continue fighting, and the moment the weapon deliveries stop, Ukrainian army will magically crumble or realize they are in fact Russians or sth. I have some friends from Ukraine (anecdotal evidence), but also saw polling -- it's an illusion, Ukrainians will keep fighting even if left alone. The way they speak about Russians reminds me what we in Poland thought about Germans in the 2WW -- such an existential threat, that death is preferable over giving up. And for a reason, everyone has a dead friend or family member, everyone remembers what the "separatists" were doing in the Donbas prior to 2022 and what was found in mass graves all over liberated territories (among my friends, Izyum is actually more spoken of than Bucha).

I think it's important to explain to our glorious leaders that either the West gets its stuff together and delivers the help Ukraine needs, or we will see a very long conflict with many more dead on both sides. You just can't make a negotiated peace with someone, who lives in fantasy world like the crazy people in Kremlin.

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AleksEcommerce's avatar

Everything is fine, the main thing is that Ukraine does not have nuclear weapons. I am sure that if she had refused it, under the guarantees of Russia, the States and Great Britain, then now Ukraine would have received everything it needed, as long as it did not fire a nuclear missile. A good signal for everyone in this world. Good in quotes

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