OK: having discussed the ‘basics’ at strategic and operational levels, and certain of air warfare-related weaponry having major impact upon developments on the air war in Ukraine of the last few weeks and months, now let’s have a look at how is all (or some) of that applied in practice – and that at
Problem is that VKS doesn't know which part is save and which not. IF UA will continue in such traps and VKS in attacks it means that 1 from 20/50/100 attacks will be deadly fur SU34. And in future there should more patriots/ mamba in UA so more traps and higher risiko.
You right. 1 of 20-50 attacks will be deadly for 1-3 rus Su24 34 or 35. Moscow will lose 1-3 jets in 10-30 days. Moscow still has HUNDREDS jets, so can continue 1000+ days and produce new jets. And ALL this 1000-2000+ days Ukraine will be under 10-20 attacks every day, which with many bombs, huge loses.
Ukrainians die not you. Ukraine economy distroyed not your. So this situation good for you
If ua want they can surrender, If they want fight we will help them. YES, we can and should do it faster. This war will be not decided by planes, but by artillery and...
8 years of this war West sent 0 weapons, and bought russian goods on 2.4 trillions $. And all 9 years West lie all time, every day. Lies about sanctions, lies about "we not give weapon to prevent escalation", lies about help, list too long
Oh
West bought russian goods on 2.4 trillions $ during 9 years of this war. This is enough to kill ALL ukrainians. Do i need to write calculations here? And provided russian military industry with ALL what it needed. If you not agree - please enumerate here What Moscow wanted and did not get. West impose weapon embargo on Ukraine during 8 years. Ukraine got from USA 0 weapon for this 8 years. USA invested in Ukraine 0$ during 30 years, compare with Moscow empire and China. Which were declared as principal enemies. 30% of ukrainian budget revenue were spent on % for western credits, and now 60%, but debt higher and higher. West damaged Ukraine economic by quotas and high taxes on ukrainian goods. And NO such on russian goods. And now banned import ukrainian wheat, corn and others to several EU countries. West destroyed 2000+ ukrainian tanks and huge amount other weapons, and nuclear weapon. So West did ALL for quick and complete Ukraine destruction 24 feb 2022. With millions casualties. But plans failed.
West want make money as partner with russian fascists. 600+ billions $ western investments are blocked in Moscow empire. West want from Ukraine quick capitulation - Minsk 3, and make money as usual. This is one of the reason why West not confiscate bloody russian money. Recently putin not only blocked but gave some Unipro property to temporary aaaa management of russian government. USA already made business with Stalin and Hitler. And we know the result.............
USA became the World hegemon. West destroyed 2400 ukrainian thermonuclear bombs. So NOW 0 countries will refuse have nuclear weapon. More and more countries will have more and more nuclear bombs. This is a matter of time ONLY, say 10-30 years and such lovely organisations like ISIS will get thermonuclear bombs. IF you have a business with Evil - result .... the same.
Roman is not a troll, but a traumatized Ukrainian from Kherson. A city that is bombed daily by Russia. His YT channel shows footage that he personally filmed.
OK Roman. We all 'hear' you, and are informed now: yes, West is to blame for everything, including the destruction of Ukraine. After all, it's aggressive NATO that invaded Ukraine, the country actually does not exist (whether because it never existed, anyway, or because it's completely destroyed now), and if there are any 'Russian' troops in Ukraine, then just some pathfinders that lost direction....
Please, be so kind and restrain yourself from trolling around here.
Tom, Roman is not a troll, but a traumatized Ukrainian from Kherson. A city that is bombed daily by Russia. His YT channel shows footage that he personally filmed.
That was USA and others western countries who destroyed ukraine 2400 thermonuclear bombs, not only Moscow! And destroed 1000 nuclear bombs, and destroyed tanks T 55 T 54 t 62 and others and destroyed many jets and other weapons.
So you like a trall begin to write nonsense like:" it's aggressive NATO that invaded Ukraine...."
VKS is bombing every day many times. Not you. Russian jets have FULL autopilots, because as you wrote Moscow does not have enough pilots.
Or may be you just manipulate?
So you can continue find excuses for business as usual with Putin( West bought russian goods on 2.4 trillions $ during 9 years of this war, and 400+ billions $ since 24 february.). You
So far, VKS stoppped lobbing their bombs in the norther eastern part of Ukraine. They still operate in the Kherson/Zaporizhzha area, but it's matter of time till they get caught.
Everyone realy wait for your " i confirm". And of couse will obey your "go home". Why did you write about vodka? Oh, what would Freud say about you post?
That's not how it works. russians aren't going to send their pilots on kamikaze missions.
Following Tom's example, they will have to "react" to this new Ukrainian capability. Their first reaction will be to suspend their Su-34 bombing operations until a "fix" is found.
Think of what every major air force or airlines do once they find a critical flaw say in , say, air brakes in 1-3 accidents. They ground the entire fleet of these jets until the issue is solved. Kind of a standard operating procedure.
Same here. russians will suspend their operations until they figure out "what the hell just happened." Now we play with time. Did this pause buy Ukrainians enough time to achieve one of their higher-level goals? For example, enough time for a small ground counter-offensive operation, or enough time to transfer important assets from A to B w/o risking them to get bombed, or enough time to deploy/redeploy more Patriot/Buk systems to create a stronger umbrella, or enough time to bring in their air force, who knows. But time is important here.
Besides, Su-34 is a very expensive asset: a very new plane (introduced in 2014), highly capable, and russians only have 100+ of them, and probably less in this theater. They can't risk losing them.
If your paid by 50 + Intelligence agencies, can i make coffee for you, i am cheap. :) Great and interesting work again. Wondering one thing are shoulder fired ground to air weapons more plentiful, and if so how deadly are they?
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After the Russian incident I did postulate to myself "one fire-control radar, just one launcher, and the support equipment necessary for their function" but I did not know about the "home-on-jam" capability which makes it much more feasible.
I hope Ukraine are able to distribute more such sub units, there are risks but the rewards are high.
If Russian defence structures are not guarded 24/7 then Ukraine can dismantle them at their leisure, that is what I meant by useless.
Russia needs to spread their defendants along the whole front line.
I do not believe Ukraine plans to attack Russia but if internal pressure forces Russia to divert resources to guarding border defense structures that are not part of of the front line then it will weaken their front line defenses.
Im sorry but there are NO def stractures in that Belgorod region. So WHAT DO WE talk about? Sorry
I agree that this attack on Belgorod region exellant idia. BUT, in reality this was made ONLY for show, Bakhmut lost so Zelensky as usual try to ..... and it work! Ukrainians already forgot about Bakhmut!
Zelensky NOT want do, what you say about. And Moscow HAS NOT sent enough troops to border,
Moscow know that this only for PROPAGANDA. And not sent 100 000+ to border, which long
This "Roman Koval" always operates in this high anxiety mode. Either he's truly concerned about Ukraine, or just pushing the idea that 'ruzzia is too powerful, resistance is futile".
Belgorod governor of the region, Vyacheslav Gladkov announced they spent almost 10 billion rubles last year on the construction of Belgorod defense fortifications. Possibly you are correct that there are no such structures and he was lying like most Russian leaders.
Here is an article about the construction of these Belgorod defense fortifications. It is in Russian language, perhaps you can find a friend to translate it for you?
Wow! This is the most realistic explanation I've read. Another one was using optical targeting available in NASAMS, but that one did not explain the distance and ability to hit helos flying low.
Very informative. Sheds some light on a very likely possibility. I really wondered what hit the helicopter because it didn't seem as large as a BUK or S-300 or PAC-2 missile in the video since those are large. But we now have confirmation at least one of the jets was hit with a Patriot missile. I really wish we could send the Ukrainians more Patriot systems so they can utilize them like this. With such losses appearing more frequently I think the VKS would be in serious trouble. I wonder how true it is that Russia only has about 20 such EW Helicopters(Mi-8 MTPR) and the limits they have in producing more of them. I hope Ukraine will be able to target other aircraft operating in Belarus and the other parts of the front. Recently heard another Su-35 was hit flying over the Black Sea. This is extremely great news for us that want Ukraine to win. Anyways looking forward to more of these. I have learned alot. Thank you
AFAIK, there are really no more than 18-19 Mi-8MTPRs. Such equipment is very expensive, and not easy to manufacture. At least not without microprocessors made in the West or in Taiwan....
#6 read and boy oh boy did I like this one, it was very clear seeing how this works and the PSU Sam operators have to have nerves of steel and the patience of Job thanks for a great series Tom
We thank you, International Man of Mystery and Intrigue!
....and conspiracy. Don't forget conspiracy: it's crucial.... ;-)
PSU can make trap in 1 place of 1500 km front. So VKS bombs other 1300km
....which is what happened in reality, too.
Problem is that VKS doesn't know which part is save and which not. IF UA will continue in such traps and VKS in attacks it means that 1 from 20/50/100 attacks will be deadly fur SU34. And in future there should more patriots/ mamba in UA so more traps and higher risiko.
You right. 1 of 20-50 attacks will be deadly for 1-3 rus Su24 34 or 35. Moscow will lose 1-3 jets in 10-30 days. Moscow still has HUNDREDS jets, so can continue 1000+ days and produce new jets. And ALL this 1000-2000+ days Ukraine will be under 10-20 attacks every day, which with many bombs, huge loses.
Ukrainians die not you. Ukraine economy distroyed not your. So this situation good for you
If ua want they can surrender, If they want fight we will help them. YES, we can and should do it faster. This war will be not decided by planes, but by artillery and...
8 years of this war West sent 0 weapons, and bought russian goods on 2.4 trillions $. And all 9 years West lie all time, every day. Lies about sanctions, lies about "we not give weapon to prevent escalation", lies about help, list too long
Oh
West bought russian goods on 2.4 trillions $ during 9 years of this war. This is enough to kill ALL ukrainians. Do i need to write calculations here? And provided russian military industry with ALL what it needed. If you not agree - please enumerate here What Moscow wanted and did not get. West impose weapon embargo on Ukraine during 8 years. Ukraine got from USA 0 weapon for this 8 years. USA invested in Ukraine 0$ during 30 years, compare with Moscow empire and China. Which were declared as principal enemies. 30% of ukrainian budget revenue were spent on % for western credits, and now 60%, but debt higher and higher. West damaged Ukraine economic by quotas and high taxes on ukrainian goods. And NO such on russian goods. And now banned import ukrainian wheat, corn and others to several EU countries. West destroyed 2000+ ukrainian tanks and huge amount other weapons, and nuclear weapon. So West did ALL for quick and complete Ukraine destruction 24 feb 2022. With millions casualties. But plans failed.
West want make money as partner with russian fascists. 600+ billions $ western investments are blocked in Moscow empire. West want from Ukraine quick capitulation - Minsk 3, and make money as usual. This is one of the reason why West not confiscate bloody russian money. Recently putin not only blocked but gave some Unipro property to temporary aaaa management of russian government. USA already made business with Stalin and Hitler. And we know the result.............
USA became the World hegemon. West destroyed 2400 ukrainian thermonuclear bombs. So NOW 0 countries will refuse have nuclear weapon. More and more countries will have more and more nuclear bombs. This is a matter of time ONLY, say 10-30 years and such lovely organisations like ISIS will get thermonuclear bombs. IF you have a business with Evil - result .... the same.
Go home russian troll, there's no vodka here!
Roman is not a troll, but a traumatized Ukrainian from Kherson. A city that is bombed daily by Russia. His YT channel shows footage that he personally filmed.
He lost all hope for the West. Don't blame him.
OK Roman. We all 'hear' you, and are informed now: yes, West is to blame for everything, including the destruction of Ukraine. After all, it's aggressive NATO that invaded Ukraine, the country actually does not exist (whether because it never existed, anyway, or because it's completely destroyed now), and if there are any 'Russian' troops in Ukraine, then just some pathfinders that lost direction....
Please, be so kind and restrain yourself from trolling around here.
Tom, Roman is not a troll, but a traumatized Ukrainian from Kherson. A city that is bombed daily by Russia. His YT channel shows footage that he personally filmed.
He lost all hope for the West. Don't blame him.
That was USA and others western countries who destroyed ukraine 2400 thermonuclear bombs, not only Moscow! And destroed 1000 nuclear bombs, and destroyed tanks T 55 T 54 t 62 and others and destroyed many jets and other weapons.
So you like a trall begin to write nonsense like:" it's aggressive NATO that invaded Ukraine...."
The real question is how many trained pilots ruzzia has for those ~120 Su34.
And those helos are even rarer than Su.
VKS is bombing every day many times. Not you. Russian jets have FULL autopilots, because as you wrote Moscow does not have enough pilots.
Or may be you just manipulate?
So you can continue find excuses for business as usual with Putin( West bought russian goods on 2.4 trillions $ during 9 years of this war, and 400+ billions $ since 24 february.). You
FULL autopilots...
And I thought you are not a ruzzian troll...
So far, VKS stoppped lobbing their bombs in the norther eastern part of Ukraine. They still operate in the Kherson/Zaporizhzha area, but it's matter of time till they get caught.
Im sorry, but you are WRONG. VKS still attacks nother eastern part of Ukraine. Belgorod here. And Moscow widely use jets and helicopters
VKS STILL operate in all front were they like . Mostly evaporate so called great Counter offensive.
more avengers are coming
Go home russian troll, there's no vodka here!
I confirm that you are to go home. No vodka here - just rakia 😛
Everyone realy wait for your " i confirm". And of couse will obey your "go home". Why did you write about vodka? Oh, what would Freud say about you post?
I am glad that you will follow my "go home" recommendation (you will even "obey" it - thanks)
I think you do not good in english, so you do not understand very well what you write, sorry
That's not how it works. russians aren't going to send their pilots on kamikaze missions.
Following Tom's example, they will have to "react" to this new Ukrainian capability. Their first reaction will be to suspend their Su-34 bombing operations until a "fix" is found.
Think of what every major air force or airlines do once they find a critical flaw say in , say, air brakes in 1-3 accidents. They ground the entire fleet of these jets until the issue is solved. Kind of a standard operating procedure.
Same here. russians will suspend their operations until they figure out "what the hell just happened." Now we play with time. Did this pause buy Ukrainians enough time to achieve one of their higher-level goals? For example, enough time for a small ground counter-offensive operation, or enough time to transfer important assets from A to B w/o risking them to get bombed, or enough time to deploy/redeploy more Patriot/Buk systems to create a stronger umbrella, or enough time to bring in their air force, who knows. But time is important here.
Besides, Su-34 is a very expensive asset: a very new plane (introduced in 2014), highly capable, and russians only have 100+ of them, and probably less in this theater. They can't risk losing them.
Splendid. You put this 6-part series so well. I see why it needs these much lead-up. It all makes sense. Thank you!
Thank you very much! Great analysis of some of the ways air defense works! Written in clear and simple language. Thank you!
Herrlich!
Danke schön Tom🫵🤗
If your paid by 50 + Intelligence agencies, can i make coffee for you, i am cheap. :) Great and interesting work again. Wondering one thing are shoulder fired ground to air weapons more plentiful, and if so how deadly are they?
MANPADs are very short ranged. Indeed, near useless against fast jets underway at more than 1,000m altitude.
They can be used against cruise missiles, though.
Thus, while available in relatively 'large' numbers, they're used for other purposes, principally along the frontlines.
I was just going to write in part 5 "part 6 when".
After the Russian incident I did postulate to myself "one fire-control radar, just one launcher, and the support equipment necessary for their function" but I did not know about the "home-on-jam" capability which makes it much more feasible.
I hope Ukraine are able to distribute more such sub units, there are risks but the rewards are high.
In a conventional war, there's no way to defeat Russia 'over the night'...
As always, a reasonable scenario - Let's hope this is happening, and regularly, Tom.
The recent attack in Belgorod has demonstrated that spending billions on defense structures is useless if such structures are not guarded 24/7.
If the Russian public is sufficiently upset by such raids to demand the Russian military properly guard their defenses that can only help Ukraine.
What did the result of so long announced Ukraine counteroffensive?? 0
So you are wrong about useless of russian defence structures.
ZSU lost too much, and has gained... as much as 25 square km, and lost Bakhmut. 100 000+ square km still under ocupation
If Russian defence structures are not guarded 24/7 then Ukraine can dismantle them at their leisure, that is what I meant by useless.
Russia needs to spread their defendants along the whole front line.
I do not believe Ukraine plans to attack Russia but if internal pressure forces Russia to divert resources to guarding border defense structures that are not part of of the front line then it will weaken their front line defenses.
Im sorry but there are NO def stractures in that Belgorod region. So WHAT DO WE talk about? Sorry
I agree that this attack on Belgorod region exellant idia. BUT, in reality this was made ONLY for show, Bakhmut lost so Zelensky as usual try to ..... and it work! Ukrainians already forgot about Bakhmut!
Zelensky NOT want do, what you say about. And Moscow HAS NOT sent enough troops to border,
Moscow know that this only for PROPAGANDA. And not sent 100 000+ to border, which long
Moscow sent less than 10 000
This "Roman Koval" always operates in this high anxiety mode. Either he's truly concerned about Ukraine, or just pushing the idea that 'ruzzia is too powerful, resistance is futile".
Trolls usually concerned about concerning you. Take care of yourself
Belgorod governor of the region, Vyacheslav Gladkov announced they spent almost 10 billion rubles last year on the construction of Belgorod defense fortifications. Possibly you are correct that there are no such structures and he was lying like most Russian leaders.
Here is an article about the construction of these Belgorod defense fortifications. It is in Russian language, perhaps you can find a friend to translate it for you?
https://m.lenta.ru/news/2023/02/27/defenceee/amp/
Wunderbarer Artikel, kristallklar beschrieben und höchst informativ. Schönen Dank!
Wow! This is the most realistic explanation I've read. Another one was using optical targeting available in NASAMS, but that one did not explain the distance and ability to hit helos flying low.
Very informative. Sheds some light on a very likely possibility. I really wondered what hit the helicopter because it didn't seem as large as a BUK or S-300 or PAC-2 missile in the video since those are large. But we now have confirmation at least one of the jets was hit with a Patriot missile. I really wish we could send the Ukrainians more Patriot systems so they can utilize them like this. With such losses appearing more frequently I think the VKS would be in serious trouble. I wonder how true it is that Russia only has about 20 such EW Helicopters(Mi-8 MTPR) and the limits they have in producing more of them. I hope Ukraine will be able to target other aircraft operating in Belarus and the other parts of the front. Recently heard another Su-35 was hit flying over the Black Sea. This is extremely great news for us that want Ukraine to win. Anyways looking forward to more of these. I have learned alot. Thank you
AFAIK, there are really no more than 18-19 Mi-8MTPRs. Such equipment is very expensive, and not easy to manufacture. At least not without microprocessors made in the West or in Taiwan....
#6 read and boy oh boy did I like this one, it was very clear seeing how this works and the PSU Sam operators have to have nerves of steel and the patience of Job thanks for a great series Tom
Part 7 when ?
:D
perhaps sometimes in the future, when there's a need to explain something else.
Thanks a lot Tom