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Martin Whitener's avatar

This is a straight forward comment on all Russian Soldiers whose only notion of the "Rules of Warfare" is that it is just one more thing they can break:

You talk like your less-than-human.

You act and behave like your less-than-human.

You treat your own soldiers like your less-than-human...

...and that they are less-than-human.

You treat enemy prisoners FAR less-than-human...

....and your P.O.W. "Indoctrination" procedures are barbaric at best and make the Gestapo proud.

You sound like your less-than-human.

and you look like your less-than-human.

I know I am not ALL THAT GREAT at math and my wife is worse. However, even she could come to no other conclusion when seeing the equation above:

RUSSIANS = LESS-THAN-HUMAN

.....and if you don't like it....CHANGE IT!!!!!

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Velociraver's avatar

Wow, this, from the nation that brought us Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib, legalized torture and now Alligator Alcatraz? 🤣

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Sasha The Norwegian's avatar

It's funny, whataboutism was perfected by the USSR, and here you are, whatabouting all over the place in defence of war crimes.

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Velociraver's avatar

Your weird fascination with Russia is interesting. Did a Russian steal your wife or something? Russia is no more a "bad actor" than USA, UK, China or any other Great Power, to suggest so is intellectual dishonestly.

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Sasha The Norwegian's avatar

As far as I'm aware the US is not invading a European country and killing hundreds of thousands, so yes, our neighbour invading and murdering Ukrainians is very much my business, morality aside. Making some childish what about the US argument has no bearing on Russia's invasion.

I argue the points, you point fingers. I could point out your declared support for Hamas, but the reality is you're just a paid shill for the Kremllin, bought by theInternet Research Factory.

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Velociraver's avatar

You won't have to worry much longer, chum, they're running out of Ukronazis...now speaking of drafting women, probably by fall.

You'd best get you some basic military training, because according to Rutte, there will be Rooskies at your door in no time 🤣

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Sasha The Norwegian's avatar

Pretty sure there will be yes, or in the Baltics, Poland or Finland, and you'll be cheering on. When they come to your country you'll be rewarded for your service, genocide apologist of the month.

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Martin Whitener's avatar

Ukronazis????? Really????? Shameful.... Karma will be looking for you.

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Martin Whitener's avatar

Thanks Sasha.

:o)

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Martin Whitener's avatar

YUP. There’s water boarding and then there is the RAPE-Torture that the Russians like to do to everyone…including to each other. The U.Ass of ‘Merikuh has done some heinous and anus things in the past…and still does. I guess the Russians see the best use of torture in terms of “Economies of Scale.” As Lenin once said “You control the peasants through terror” (paraphrased).

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Velociraver's avatar

Again, you're thinking of Israel.

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Martin Whitener's avatar

Never said the Bibi NetanYOYO is not in the same category as Putin, thus WAR CRIMES up the wazoo.

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Oskar Krempl's avatar

Since when does a crime done by one side justify the crime of someone else?

Oleshky prison is an ugly example of a very long "Russki mir" tradition started by the soviets. The Russians themselves have a very long tradition of atrocities before soviet times. They used "scorched earth" tactics for centuries and didn't give a shit if they made their own population sufferings.

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Velociraver's avatar

It doesn't justify anything. Point is it's hypocrisy to focus only on the crimes of one faction. I'm neither Ukrainian nor Russian. I'm saying both sides are equally guilty of crimes, just like the British and Australian SAS in Afghanistan, USA at Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo and innumerable CIA "black sites" across the globe, in such places as Ukraine and el Salvador.

Don't be a hypocrite 🤷‍♂️

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Oskar Krempl's avatar

Both sides? Which crimes did Ukraine do, except not wanting to be enslaved, which hardly one can call a crime?

Where am I a hypocrite?

Where is the connection to a war where the RF is trying to exterminate Ukrainian identity?

Obviously you are a supporter of sophistry.

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Velociraver's avatar

You spelled "Israeli" wrong 🤷‍♂️

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Martin Whitener's avatar

Well, I can not say you are incorrect in that assessment.

Score for team "Bieber."

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Tupolev16's avatar

There's an ironic expression in Russian that could be translated like: "True stories that cannot be kept silent about". This perfectly corresponds with another Don's "revelation" from the "proven" UA sources.

Just a few questions:

1) if U want to execute prisoners, why don't you simply shot them without any complications?

2) who in sane mind will fire unguided shells into the camp, risking lives of soldiers guarding the prisoners?

3) "meanwhile, there is no doubt that the attack came from south-east:" 14 km from the frontline - is it too far for UA atillery?)))

P.S. Don could have published another masterpiece research about RU Candid with UA prisoners downed by PSU idiots. I remember a year ago he was stating that "it was a Russian plot", "no prisoners there", and etc. However, some honest UA high-ranked officials admitted the true identities of perished prisoners and deprived Don from another striking "revelation".

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Marmot's avatar

1) Typically Russian - prepare and commit massacre so as they can blame others.

2) Typically Russian - never care of own people. If some of them die, it just make their lies more sound.

3) It's not too far and indeed, UA had GLMRS missiles able to turn 180 degrees at that time. TOP SECRET - do not tell to anyone!!! These "turn around GLMRS missiles" were provided from TOP SECRET USA military research by Biden. That's why Trump was so mad about Biden support, because Trump administration consider them as their mayor advantage on the battlefield and do not want to provide them to anyone (even not to Israel).

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IT's avatar

Just tell me who in sane mind would come with a plan like this and execute it?

These devastating attacks, which killed over 300 people in several apartment blocks, were officially attributed to Chechen terrorists by the Russian authorities. However, a persistent and deeply disturbing theory suggests a far more sinister possibility: that elements within Russia's own Federal Security Service (FSB) orchestrated the bombings as a false flag operation.

The motive, according to this theory, would have been chillingly cynical: to justify the launch of the Second Chechen War. Public opinion in Russia, initially weary after the first Chechen conflict, was galvanized by the bombings. The narrative presented by the government — of Chechen vengeance and existential threat — provided the necessary pretext for a brutal military campaign aimed at restoring order and punishing the supposed culprits. For an individual or group capable of such a monstrous act, driven by a cold, calculating desire to consolidate power or achieve political aims, orchestrating the bombings to initiate a large-scale "massacre in Chechnya" (as you put it) would represent an extreme form of realpolitik, where human lives are merely pawns in a much larger, darker game. While conclusive proof remains elusive due to the lack of independent investigation and the suppression of critical voices in Russia, the theory continues to haunt discussions about the early years of Vladimir Putin's ascent to power.

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Tupolev16's avatar

Yes, I read researches and watched videos about the described case, all conclusions are possible depending on which side of the "shield" you are.

Still, following that logic, September 11, 2001 is even more cynical and deadly plot, right?

Anyway, if admit that June 2022 was a false flag, Cui prodest?

There was absolutely no roar about the accident in Russia media. It was smth like official statement that VSU killed their own soldiers and that's all. No propaganda usage.

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IT's avatar

Or it was just a lack of competence or drunk idiots or just idiots like this one

The 2002 Moscow theater hostage crisis, also known as the Nord-Ost siege, ended in tragedy when Russian special forces used an unknown incapacitating gas to end the standoff with Chechen terrorists. While the gas successfully neutralized the hostage-takers, its undisclosed nature and the subsequent lack of immediate, proper medical care led to the deaths of over 130 hostages, primarily from respiratory failure. The incident remains a deeply controversial event, highlighting the devastating consequences of using such agents in hostage rescue operations.

BUT THE TERRORISTS WERE ELIMINAED AND HOSTAGES SAVED FROM CRUEL DEATH

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In the future only war's avatar

Ah, the classic fascist playbook:

"If we confuse everything enough, maybe no one will notice the war crimes."

You read "research" — great. Now try reading real investigations and not Kremlin bedtime stories. Comparing a mass murder of POWs to 9/11 isn’t just pathetic, it’s disgustingly cynical.

And “no propaganda usage”? Are you seriously trying to paint Russia as restrained? The country that screams "Ukrainian Nazis" every night on TV? You’re not just lying — you’re insulting every thinking person.

Fascist regimes always downplay their own crimes. So thank you, Tupolev16, for being a perfect example of how they rely on useful idiots to blur reality.

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Yury Peskin's avatar

The Russians also blew up a plane full of people, MH-17, over Ukraine, with a BUK, provided by Russians and taken back across the border after the incident. What was the point in that?

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Sasha The Norwegian's avatar

The "Ryazan Sugar" incident was part of this. Who was running point? - One FSB director Nikolai Patrushev, a name that should be familiar.

Putin did use this incident to launch the second Chechen war and consolidate power. There's a direct cause and effect.

The Beslan School attack and the Moscow Theatre both resulted in huge casualties because of Russian actions (use of RPGs and tanks in the first, and an unknown chemical gas and delay in treatment in the second).

It has been theorized, by Masha Gessen for example, that maximum casualties were sought in order to inflame public sentiment and pave the way for more control.

After Beslan, Putin removed the elections of the governors, replacing that system with direct appointments. That is - there is a direct cause and effect between the Beslan siege and consolidation of Putin's direct power.

Does anyone seriously believe the Russian leadership cares about own/civilian casualties? I struggle to find any point in the Russian empire/USSR/Russia's history where civilian casualties gave the rulers pause. Even that darling of the West, Gorbatchev, was no saint, killing hundreds of civilians in Lithuania, Latvia and Azerbaijan when the USSR was in its death throes.

That the war criminals of the 155th could/would orchestrate mass murder of Azov prisoners is not far fetched, knowing their later conduct in Kursk one could be forgiven for taking that for granted.

If anyone believes Russian soldiers are afraid of killing their own, they haven't been paying attention.

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Velociraver's avatar

Who cares about the lives of Azov nazis? Unless...someone from *yet another* nation that voluntarily fielded a Waffen SS division back in the day..

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IT's avatar

Enjoy, its probably even better now after almost 20 years ;-)

According to experts like Czech historian Jiří Padevět and reports from organizations like Amnesty International, Russia is widely believed to host the largest neo-Nazi community in the world.

For example, a 2008 report by Amnesty International indicated that Russia had an estimated 85,000 active neo-Nazis at the time, which accounted for nearly half of the global estimate. These groups are often associated with violence, particularly against non-ethnic Russians, and there have been concerns about their infiltration into law enforcement and military ranks.

Despite Russia's significant sacrifice in World War II against Nazism, antisemitism has historically been deeply entrenched in the country, and neo-Nazi groups have unfortunately proliferated. While neo-Nazi and far-right extremist groups exist in many countries (including the US, Germany, and other European nations), the sheer scale and, at times, alleged tolerance or instrumentalization of such groups in Russia have often been highlighted by observers.

References (for background, some might be older but reflect the historical context of the claims):

Amnesty International (2008 Report): While a direct link to the specific 85,000 figure in a single public report might be hard to pinpoint for 2008, Amnesty International has consistently published reports on racism and xenophobia in Russia, highlighting the prevalence of hate crimes and the activities of neo-Nazi groups. For instance, an older Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty article from 2006, citing Amnesty International, noted "Russia: Racism 'Out Of Control,'" and discussed the spread of Nazi symbols and ideology.

Expert Consensus: The view of Russia having a significant neo-Nazi problem is widely shared among human rights organizations, academic researchers, and political analysts specializing in extremism and Russian affairs. You can find numerous articles and academic papers discussing this phenomenon in Russia.

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Velociraver's avatar

Yes, neo-nazism is a scourge across Europe. The excellent "Events in Ukraine" Substack has some excellent deep dives into the who's who in nazi circles on both sides of the border, along with connections to terror attacks, Ukrainian scam call centers, the SBU and FSB.

The significant difference is that Russian nazi punks have no influence over Russian state policy, whereas through oligarchs and organizations such as Pravy Sektor, Azov, Adair, Honor etc, etc, ad nauseam, Ukrainian nazis hold great sway over Ukrainian politics, military strategy and civic discourse. Let's not pretend that Biletsky has no political ambitions. It's a fact that Zelenskyy's life has been threatened by these organizations if he signs a peace deal ceding territory...so, how then does Ukraine exit a war that it cannot win? If the nazis don't kill Zelenskyy, then surely the long arm of Kolomoisky will spare no expense to finish him no matter where he flees.

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IT's avatar

Poor ruzzian pissmakers are constantly victims of bullying by the whole world, and those damned Ukrainians brazenly attacked their benevolent columns near Kyiv, ruining their noble plans. I'm also sick and tired of this baseless Russophobia; after all, it was not for nothing that one wise Ruzzian said "Хотели как лучше, а получилось как всегда"

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Sasha The Norwegian's avatar

I'm sorry, Wagner (so named in a homage to Hitlers fave composer by the literal nazi Utkin, he of the ss lighting bolt tattoos), Rusich, Espanola? Out and proud russian nazis, with influence and money that far outstrips any Ukrainian unit.

They named their mercenary unit in Africa the Africa Corps, ever heard of the Afrika Korps?

No western country is without some neo nazi presence, Italy is run by a 'reformed' fascist party, but, the difference is that in Ukraine they have no political power (last election all the right wing combined forces and got just over 1% of the votes). Biletsky tried to run but there were no votes for him, modern Ukrainians are not drawn to extremists at the polls.

The nazi smear is old hat.

Azov did have some undesirables in the early days of 2014, and they were booted out, and Azov (both parts) have since gone to great lengths to distance themselves from that, and more telling, they do not act like nazis, have Jews and various other ethnic groups represented, and take orders from their Jewish and Muslim superiors.

Noone needs to threaten Zelenskyi about surrendering to the Russians, do you really believe he'd surrender of he wasn't threatened? Come on.

Be that as it may, your argument seems to be that it was OK to murder these POWs because they belonged to Azov Batttalion?

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Sasha The Norwegian's avatar

Oh, if they held any sway over Ukrainian military strategy how do you explain Syrskyy? I've seen enough ex-Azov and Third Corps members criticise him, yet he remains while his most vocal critics are run out of the military. Seems odd no?

Why would Syrskyy go out of his way to break the military units that originated from pravi sector militias apart if he was under their sway?

I'm not defending pravi sector, they're unreformed, but they have little political clout, there simply aren't that many of them.

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Moriarty's avatar

You are repeating Russian propaganda. You are most likely some kind of Kremlin bot. What peace deal are you talking about? Are you referring to the Minsk agreements between Poroshenko and Putin? If this is what you are talking about, then Minsk is not a ‘peace’ agreement, but a complete surrender. One only has to read the 13 points of Putin's Minsk to understand what is written there: the withdrawal of Ukrainian troops from its territory, payments to murderers, amnesty for murderers, elections in the occupied territories and full autonomy for the occupied part of Donbas, as well as the absence of closed borders between Ukraine and Russia. The absence of closed borders between Ukraine and Russia means that Putin wanted to bring Ukraine back into the full economic and political orbit of the Kremlin's influence. In principle, Poroshenko did all this until 2019. He lobbied for the law ‘On the Special Order of Local Self-Government in Certain Districts of Donetsk and Luhansk Regions’ and violated the Ukrainian Constitution by amending the law during the war. If you read this law carefully, it contains the provisions of the Minsk agreements.

https://zakon.rada.gov.ua/laws/show/1680-18#Text

In the first three months of 2018, Ukraine increased its trade turnover with Russia by 14.9% to $2.6 billion compared to the same period last year.

According to Slovo i Dilo, this is evidenced by statistics from the National Bank of Ukraine (NBU), Interfax-Ukraine reports.

https://www.slovoidilo.ua/2018/05/02/novyna/ekonomika/ukrayina-zbilshyla-obsyah-torhivli-rosiyeyu

2016. How Ukrainian police escort Russian trucks in Kovel. On 25 February 2016, Ukraine resumed the use of Ukrainian transit permits for trucks registered in the Russian Federation, which had been suspended by the Cabinet of Ministers on 15 February.

On 26 February, activists resumed their protests against the transit of Russian trucks through Ukrainian territory.

https://www.volynnews.com/news/society/yak-politsiia-suprovodzhuye-rosiyski-fury-v-koveli-video/

The Kremlin's main profit was the transportation of Russian oil and gas to Europe through Ukraine until 2019.

When Putin speaks of no alternative to the Minsk agreements, he is talking about Ukraine's surrender, or in case of refusal, he threatened a full-scale invasion, which happened in 2022.

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Velociraver's avatar

You'll note that there are no photos of Russian military vehicles or units or troops sporting nazi insignia, flags, or other rregalia. This is not the case in Ukraine, as a simple "nazis in Ukraine" Google image search will attest. There are literally thousands of images of Ukrainian troops and military vehicles sporting nazi flags, tattoos, divisional insignia, tactical markings, etc.

There are myriad reports in Western press over the queasy stomachs of NATO instructors compelled to train Azov nazis, the subsequent ban on equipment and funding for them, and it's quiet re-instatement after their "re-branding".

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IT's avatar

Save my time and share with me, one picture woth millions words

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FzaAew9WIAICl2K.jpg

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Sasha The Norwegian's avatar

The ban on equipment came almost a decade ago, and the instigator of those sanctions, Ro Khanna, has since agreed they are reformed and no longer espouse or seek to implement such policies. As do virtually any expert on extremists and nao nazis.

Most of the old and new 'Azov' leadership draw a line between military service and politics, wanting nothing to do with the latter.

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Velociraver's avatar

Never heard of Operation Gladio? Seriously?

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magnasek's avatar

Why do mix sane mind and russian leaders? (And that on any level, that nation has just damaged moral, mix of orthodox christianity, whixh is broken on its own and asian disrespect to individual lives).

Knowing a lot of russians I would be surprised if they acted the way westerners see rational.

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Commenter's avatar

> There's an ironic expression in Russian that could be translated like: "True stories that cannot be kept silent about".

Russians indeed have come up with a lot of cynical and sadistic expressions to cover for their barbarism and lack of empathy. These expressions are something to be ashamed of, not to flaunt as some kind of demented wisdom.

But you flaunt even your warcrimes, so no surprises there.

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Velociraver's avatar

You an American? It's always hilarious when Americans attempt to preach about "war crimes", and "honorable conduct", after murdering millions across the globe, nuking two cities and presiding over their 2nd genocide.

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Tupolev16's avatar

Sadly, there are a few UA TSipso jackals here who start barking right after any post that argue some primitive propaganda posts. They have classical features of trolls: mixing facts, switching from subject to various non-related ussues, hanging names, and etc. There are normal UA guys here that post sane and interesting thoughts, but they are overshadowed by the creatures like "Commenter", "In the future only war" (he also posts like "Yura" and "Юра") and some other. It's a sheer waste of time to respond to these deserters.

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Commenter's avatar

Drown in piss.

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Oskar Krempl's avatar

I guess you were looking into a mirror, when you wrote that comment.

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Samke's avatar

What to expect from Don...stop following in depth long ago, wondering did Don or Tom commented about last month exchange of dead where 6000 UAF members were exchanged for 30 RF soldiers... while promoting agenda of incompetent and stupid generals of RF....sorry for all losses on both sides

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Marton Sunrise's avatar

You contradict yourself

You clearly "did not stop following"

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Samke's avatar

I was sure that you will grasp meaning of word " in depth" as I stated. Back to question, did Don or Tom covered issue? I asked both of them many months ago but no answer? Do you have any?

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Marton Sunrise's avatar

I interpret "in depth" as a sort of schoolboy excuse, like "a big dog stole my homework"

Either you read them or you don't, and you clearly read them as you quote from them

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Samke's avatar

So did he elaborate on subject or just skipped? Hard to digest while gloryfuing all victories and incompetence of RAF while number are opposite. What's you take on it? I did not quite anything, just asked Don and Tom on many occasions to elaborate on figures of MIA on UAF side and they never did.

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Sarcastosaurus's avatar

Is anybody forcing you to follow and read?

Perhaps at a gunpoint?

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Samke's avatar

Any comment on my question re body exchange figures? No-one force you to read you my comments neither at the gunpoint? Asked you on numerous occasions to have your opinion on number of PoW and MIA and you always avoid an answer rather to drag discussion to nonsense. Have a nice day

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V K's avatar

UA is retreating thats why the small number of corpses...

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Inspired defender of Ukraine's avatar

It was a simple 'litmus test', and you don't pass through.

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In the future only war's avatar

So many words to justify a war crime. You bend logic into a pretzel to shield your fascist homeland from responsibility — and still fail.

If you're wondering why POWs were burned alive instead of "just shot" — maybe ask your own sadistic commanders, not the people you invaded.

Who’d shell their own guards? Maybe the kind of army that mines its own retreat paths and murders its own wounded.

And no, 14 km is nothing for modern artillery. But it’s apparently too far for your mind to travel from propaganda to reality.

Your desperate mental gymnastics won’t erase the evidence, nor the blood on Russia’s hands. You’re not clever — you’re just another apologist for a fascist regime that murders, lies, and blames others for its crimes.

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BK_fella's avatar

Would you like some cheese with your whine?

come one Tupy, you whine and whine and whine more than 3y old

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Moriarty's avatar

HIMARS and Yelenovka

https://judeomasson.livejournal.com/205834.html

Judeomasson: «Apparently, officials of the Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation are rapidly losing their adequacy. And the reason for this is most likely the panic that has arisen there because of HIMARS. They are doing everything possible to convince the US not to supply HIMARS to Ukraine. There are fakes that HIMARS are allegedly destroyed or even resold on the black market. And recently, perhaps for this very purpose, they made a provocation - they blew up a prison with prisoners of war in Yelenovka, but tried to blame it on the UAF(Armed Forces of Ukraine). They tried to prove that it was the UAF that shelled the prison with HIMARS, and as evidence they showed the fragments of HIMARS shells. The goal was simple. It was as if the Russian side was telling the Americans - do not give Ukraine HIMARS, as they are committing war crimes with HIMARS, killing their own prisoners of war. Naturally, no one believed the Russians. For example, a Pentagon representative at a briefing said that the Ukrainian armed forces had fired HIMARS so many times that it was not a problem to find debris in other places and bring it to the right place. The Institute for the Study of War said the same thing. They also analysed photos from the scene, and concluded that it could not have been the result of a HIMARS strike, that in fact there was a fire inside the prison as a result of an explosion that occurred inside. And they're not the only ones. A lot of experts are saying that.

Usually when someone is charged with an offence, a motive is stated. In other words, it is necessary to explain why the perpetrator needed to commit this crime. Russian propaganda claims that the Ukrainians killed their own because they were afraid that the prisoners might give some revealing testimony. Here's what Volodin said, for example.

Quote:«President Zelensky and Washington are behind the missile attack on the detention centre in Yelenivka. This was done for one purpose: to prevent a new Nuremberg trial, where captive Nazis from Azov would testify. Washington and Kyiv are removing witnesses to their crimes against humanity so that the citizens of European States and the United States of America will not turn their backs on them and the supply of weapons and ammunition will continue».

It is clear from his words that Russia is very afraid that supplies of weapons and ammunition to Ukraine will continue. It was worth organising such a provocation in order to stop these supplies. Nevertheless, a more implausible version is hard to come up with.

At the end of last year, videos of torture of prisoners in Russian colonies were leaked to the West. Almost all Western media wrote about it, for example, the American New York Post.

https://nypost.com/2021/11/11/inside-putins-torture-conveyor-belt-prisons-where-inmates-are-raped-and-mutilated/

the British Guardian, Deutsche Welle, and so on.

https://www.dw.com/en/a-culture-of-torture-and-fear-is-rife-in-russias-prisons/a-60614959

And when the prisoners from Mariupol were transferred to a prison in the DNR, many Western media wrote, for example here and here

https://inews.co.uk/news/mariupol-civilians-prison-detained-russia-putin-filtration-1637957

that prisoners of war are tortured there in order to extract the necessary testimony from them. This means that if Russian propaganda were to publish recordings of the testimonies of these prisoners of war, there is a 100 per cent guarantee that no one would believe them, since the West already knows that in Russian prisons testimony is forced by torture. So what was the point of the UAF shelling this prison? But the Russian side had motives».

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Velociraver's avatar

Who needs a "motive" to kill nazis? The fact that they are nazis was always and still is sufficient reason.

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Moriarty's avatar

Azov are not Nazis, they are nationalists. Nazism is an extreme form of nationalism. If you had even read the definition of this term, you would know the difference. Ukrainian nationalists are extremely fond of their homeland, traditions, culture, customs and history. It is not a bad thing to love your homeland. And I believe that nationalism is a certain deterrent to the degradation of society. For example, in Russia, the imperial Soviet state ideology of ‘friendship of peoples’ is analogous to European ‘multiculturalism’. In reality, there is no friendship between these peoples in Russia, but only hatred for each other, which is restrained by the repressive machine, but this ideology allows the elite to expand borders and have ambitions for world domination. Both during the Soviet era and now, the Kremlin leadership considers nationalism in the countries they consider to be their sphere of influence to be a form of separatism, as they consider themselves an empire. Therefore, their propaganda goes out of its way to accuse nationalists of atrocities. In reality, the Russian army, similar to the Soviet bloody tradition of communists and Chekists, commits unthinkable crimes against civilians and blames Ukrainians for all its crimes. Sometimes, the Kremlin's propaganda reaches the point of absurdity. They are constantly accusing Ukrainians of things they do themselves.Therefore, when you talk about sufficient grounds to come and kill someone simply because they love their homeland, it means that you are no different from the Red Commissars. Well, the crimes of the Nazis have long been documented, proven and condemned by the world. In the end, Hitler's Nazis were even credited with atrocities that they did not even commit. For example, the Soviet Union blamed some of its own crimes on the Nazis. If this world is not a hypocritical bunch of cynical bastards, then why hasn't this ‘just’ world and their leftist regimes that replaced them after the Second World War condemned the atrocities of socialism and communism on a par with National Socialism? Didn't Stalin, Mao and their ilk kill enough people around the world? Stalin killed more than 50 million people by starvation, execution, idiotic unnecessary wars and hard labour in the Gulag. Mao Zedong killed more than 100 million people. How is it possible that some crimes are condemned, while others are met with hypocritical silence and acceptance from the world community? If we compare them in terms of percentage and number of victims, Hitler is just a small pest compared to Stalin and Mao. Although I am not in any way justifying or denying the crimes of the Hitler regime, because they have all been proven. I'm just focusing on hypocrisy and stupid propaganda for zombie idiots who can't figure out for themselves what reality they are living in and how they are adequately perceiving it.

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Velociraver's avatar

Not interested in your nazi apologist bullshit and whattaboutism, chum. Sell it somewhere else.

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Moriarty's avatar

In my commentary, I nowhere praised the crimes of the Hitler regime and Nazism, but rather said that the crimes of his regime had long been confirmed, proven and condemned by the world. There were specific trials, evidence, sentences and punishments. I merely pointed out that the crimes of communism and socialism were much greater and were not condemned by the world at the international level to the same extent. In my opinion, this position of the international community is hypocritical. It seems that you do not understand the arguments and do not feel reality like most zombie fanatics in this world.

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Velociraver's avatar

One can argue that the crimes of capitalism are worse still, but you see,n nobody cares 🤷‍♂️

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Moriarty's avatar

Archive footage of a delegation of Ukrainian nationalists travelling to Chechnya in 1995 and their meetings with Chechens Basayev, Maskhadov, Udugov and Chechen President Dudaev.

The film was prepared for Memorial in Kiev by the Galicia association in 1995.

https://youtu.be/VfvIJbqX9vY?si=yUHgC89qMAdMy-t4

The video contains testimonies from civilians about atrocities committed by the Russian army, which shelled towns, markets and hospitals. Local residents also testified that Russia used cluster munitions with needle-like elements against them, which killed children. Local residents also testified that the Russian military threw ampoules with an unknown substance into water bodies. Chechens under occupation also testify that Russians loaded people lying down into military transport vehicles, where the bottom row suffocated and died upon arrival at the filtration camp. Local residents also say that there have been many cases of sexual violence, abductions, murders and looting.

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Sarcastosaurus's avatar

Be careful - VERY CAREFUL - about accusing anybody here of being a 'Nazi': I've got ZERO tolerance for such BS.

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Velociraver's avatar

Weird how so many "proud Ukrainian nationalists " have German SS and Nazi tattoos, literally hundreds of such characters photographed 🤔 Care to explain?

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Moriarty's avatar

Listen, friend, you're just wishful thinking. There is simply millions of evidence of the Russian army of inhumans destroying cities with all civilians by air, killing civilians, shooting convoys of refugees with women and children from tanks. There are a lot of videos of Russian troops cutting off the heads of prisoners, shooting prisoners and dismembering them. And no one is even trying to hide this anymore. This is real sadism in the spirit of communist inhuman beasts. Do you want me to remind you how the Russian army bombed Aleppo in Syria, destroying all living things with its aircraft, and repeatedly bombed convoys with humanitarian aid with the same aircraft? Is it possible to remember Russia's atrocities in Georgia? What about the atrocities of Russian artillery and aviation in Chechnya, where the city of Grozny and local villages were destroyed and civilians were killed? As a typical Russian bot and Russian, you yourself justify all the atrocities of your government and make your country look better than it really is, and you hypocritically accuse me of Nazism.

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Elcossack's avatar

There are plenty of photos of russian PoW with nazi tattoos also. Starting from a "Rusich" DShRG lead by nazi Milchakov.

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Moriarty's avatar

I don't even want to comment on this crazy nonsense. You will not find a single video where someone says that Azov or other nationalists tortured or killed civilians, because this simply does not exist. And because Ukrainians are nationalists who are interested in preserving the nation. The entire ideology of Azov is based on this. Only the crazy Russian propaganda and absolutely worthless people, alcoholics or drug addicts from the territory of Donbas, whom Russia has been actively using in its propaganda for meagre funds since 2014, can retransmit such things. And Azov and other Ukrainian nationalists do not have the resources to implement all this, as Russian propaganda accuses them of doing. But Russia had a lot of weapons, artillery, mercenaries and aircraft, which it actively used against the civilian population. There is a million proofs of this on the Internet. So Russia itself is behaving like the Nazis or rather the grandchildren of the communists and the Chekists.

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Russian military killed Armenian family in Gyumri because of ‘noise’.

"There was noise, children were crying and dogs were barking in the courtyard. I killed so that this noise would stop," the accused said

Russian conscript soldier Valery Permyakov, who is accused of killing an Armenian family in January 2015, answered in the affirmative when asked whether he did kill members of the Avetisyan family. He said he did it because of "noise".

The soldier is accused of leaving the 102nd Russian military base in Gyumri, Armenia, on 12 January 2015 and killing a family of seven, including a two-year-old girl and a six-month-old child who died of his injuries a week later. He shot the adults and killed the children with an awl knife from a Kalashnikov assault rifle.

https://www.currenttime.tv/amp/27707090.html

A Nazi maniac from St. Petersburg is fighting for ‘LNR’ terrorists Source.

https://censor.net/ru/photonews/292301/za_terroristov_lnr_voyuet_manyaknatsist_iz_sanktpeterburga_rej_bomjeyi_schenkov_i_deteyi_fotoreportaj

"I'm a Nazi. I can raise my arm." Dozens of fighters of Russian neo-Nazi groups are fighting on the side of the Russian Federation in Ukraine.

German intelligence has found out that dozens of representatives of Russian neo-Nazi groups are fighting on Ukrainian territory. We are talking about the Russian Imperial Legion, a subdivision of the Russian Imperial Movement, and the Rusich group. According to the 24 February report, the head of the Legion, Denys Gariyev, wrote in his social networks that the organisation ‘certainly advocates the liquidation of the separatist entity called Ukraine’.

https://www.currenttime.tv/amp/ya-natsist-mogu-ruku-vskinut-v-ukraine-na-storone-rf-voyuyut-desyatki-boytsov-rossiyskih-neonatsistskih-gruppirovok-/31868399.html

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James Touza's avatar

Very much to the point in this discussion. By making Nazi crimes the world standard, Communist crimes are not equivalent, despite a greater kill count. And in the Union Nazi targeted killings of Jews were downplayed because of the reason Moriarty highlights.

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Oskar Krempl's avatar

So if someone calls you a Nazi, everyone has the right to kill you? Interesting idea, but a little bit self harming.

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Velociraver's avatar

Though technically a crime to harm POWs, nobody is going to cry over 50 dead nazis.

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Yury Peskin's avatar

If only you can prove they were Nazis, you little prick, it still does not give you the right for extrajudicial killing of POW.

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Velociraver's avatar

Russia didn't shell them, Ukraine did...and no loss to anybody, because a dead nazi is a good nazi.

Next time Propokenko won't be so lucky, perhaps 🤷‍♂️

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Velociraver's avatar

Seems more likely an attempt by Ukraine to silence the Azovite nazis and prevent them being exploited for show trials. Boatswain and others returned early from exile in Turkey, demonstrating that they can never be trusted.

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MihaiB's avatar

The bombing was strange and I think was done by some low level Russian/ Donetsk commander.

Russian soldiers continued to kill and torture POWs after Olenivka while Putin released Azov commanders and then exchanged Azov POWs.

There was no Russian effort to destroy Azov probably becaise they are needed as eternal Nazis.

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August F Siemon's avatar

It's sad that so many people have to be reminded about this type of conduct by the Russians. It is who they are.

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Bogdan's avatar

it's weird to read pro-ruzzian idiots in the comments: I just hope war comes to your home and you suffer the way you are cheering for war crimes. just ban these idiots.

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Vici81's avatar

Haven' t seen this much shit shoveled in the comments by Russian trolls since the days when Tom was collecting money for the Shark recon UAV... means him and Don hit a raw nerve again. Bravo, gentelmen.

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Claudio M.'s avatar

still some good banning would be needed to clean out the scum

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