//Russia uses 6,000,000 artillery shells a year and over half of them come from North Korea. The quality of the shells have been poor and have been responsible for the destruction of some of Russia’s guns but - except for UMPK glide bombs - they have also been a major reason why Russia has been able to advance. What isn’t clear is how long North Korea can continue shipping shells at this rate.//
The first statements from America that North Korea supplies shells and missiles to Russia appeared in November 2022.
Over the next 2 years, there were many new statements about large shipments of shells to Russia.
There is even information that the shells from North Korea are very bad (up to half of the shells do not work).
It would seem that there is no problem to provide actual evidence of the presence of North Korean shells in Russia, but there are such problems!
Because not a single fact has been provided, not a single projectile has been shown. Nothing.
How can this be explained?
In my opinion, this is obvious.
The claim that Russia is massively using North Korean shells in Ukraine is a lie.
If someone tries to argue with me, let them first try to explain how it is possible to use millions of shells for 2 years and never get caught?
Yes, only in the territory that is now controlled by the Ukrainian authorities, there should be hundreds of thousands! broken shells. Where is at least one of them?
If you are not able to answer these questions, then don't start arguing with me, please)
Sergey, there are a lot of proofs that a certain amount of N.Korean and Iranian ammunition has been supplied. No need to argue that. However, the amounts are not that big as stated. My personal imho, such supplies are "niche" ones, meaning some shells that are out of production, like 130 mm.
Don often uses UA PRBS sources, so no need to take it seriously.
You are, yourself, PRBS. Nothing is valid unless it shows the superiority of Russian imperialism. I use a variety of sources that can withstand your lies.
Thanks for the updates, all four of them. Several quite depressing. The real depressing story here is in my opinion how willing the Russians are to Go to the slaugther. But of course, after a while the slaugther gets exhausted, and cannot deal with the mess. (Yes I know Tom is furious with Gen Stab U, and I tend to accept his analysis (i mean the guy is hired by so many intelligence agencies, he must know what he is takling about) but even so the Russian mindlessness is depressing. And gives little hope for victory. However I will say that the last update was somewhat more positive.
There are multiple reasons for the single-minded Russian troops, most of these date back to decades of propaganda and brainwashed people about the Russian imperial glory against the decadent West, etc.
Add to this the role of the Russian orthodox church in supporting these imperial ambitions, and you get a nasty mix (which even influences non Christian people of Russia)
Don reported a VKS force tried to retake the ruins of the Vovchansk aggregate plant, and you have to ask, why? Is the commander butt hurt because they couldn't hold it under impossible conditions? Wouldn't it make more sense to use those troops next door in Kursk? This is the long term indoctrination you're talking about.
A couple of Ukrainian soldiers from my circle started to say that Russian brutality towards own soldiers is working better than the Ukrainian softer attitude. Because it makes Russians follow ALL orders and do suicide missions, meanwhile in Ukraine it's surprisingly easy to leave your unit and just go home.
Yes, I've seen specific price tags of "2 day leave", "skip 1 assault", "get a paper that you're disabled" etc.
You can buy yourself from fighting the war. Russian state tracks down deserters somewhat effectively, by the way.
Ukraine's army and judicial system was never intended to looks for thousands of deserters and they're just not doing that because they're too busy. Sad and funny.
The west needs to answer Russia's "hybrid" attacks kinetically. Our simply responding with law enforcement and cyber skirmishing is insufficient for the malicious activities actively trying to overturn or even destroy western democracies (see 2016 and 2020 election interference in the USA).
Add in the escalation of sabotage and similar Don described here, and it's clear that bad things need to start happening to FSB and GRU facilities in Russia.
I'm sure the S Koreans and the CIA know which types and how many shells are being sent, and it makes total sense to get 130 mm Russia no longer makes. Too bad quality control isn't better.
//Russia uses 6,000,000 artillery shells a year and over half of them come from North Korea. The quality of the shells have been poor and have been responsible for the destruction of some of Russia’s guns but - except for UMPK glide bombs - they have also been a major reason why Russia has been able to advance. What isn’t clear is how long North Korea can continue shipping shells at this rate.//
The first statements from America that North Korea supplies shells and missiles to Russia appeared in November 2022.
Over the next 2 years, there were many new statements about large shipments of shells to Russia.
There is even information that the shells from North Korea are very bad (up to half of the shells do not work).
It would seem that there is no problem to provide actual evidence of the presence of North Korean shells in Russia, but there are such problems!
Because not a single fact has been provided, not a single projectile has been shown. Nothing.
How can this be explained?
In my opinion, this is obvious.
The claim that Russia is massively using North Korean shells in Ukraine is a lie.
If someone tries to argue with me, let them first try to explain how it is possible to use millions of shells for 2 years and never get caught?
Yes, only in the territory that is now controlled by the Ukrainian authorities, there should be hundreds of thousands! broken shells. Where is at least one of them?
If you are not able to answer these questions, then don't start arguing with me, please)
Посмотрел.
Взяли обычный снаряд произведённый в России и утверждают, что это северо корейские снаряды. Неумно
Lots of images here
https://www.nknews.org/2024/01/russian-media-provides-clearest-evidence-to-date-of-north-korean-arms-in-ukraine/
https://www.ft.com/content/96e1f526-ae3d-4cff-bc37-8f9dd7d5975f
https://essanews.com/north-korean-ammunition-utilized-by-russians-against-ukrainians-a-product-of-the-axis-of-evil,6962304513341057a
https://www.38north.org/2024/06/north-koreas-flawed-but-winning-strategy-in-ukraine/
Sergey, there are a lot of proofs that a certain amount of N.Korean and Iranian ammunition has been supplied. No need to argue that. However, the amounts are not that big as stated. My personal imho, such supplies are "niche" ones, meaning some shells that are out of production, like 130 mm.
Don often uses UA PRBS sources, so no need to take it seriously.
You are, yourself, PRBS. Nothing is valid unless it shows the superiority of Russian imperialism. I use a variety of sources that can withstand your lies.
Don, this is a Russian who says that Bucha was staged.
He'll get fucked in the ass and won't notice it if his Tsar says it didn't happen.
Thank you for your work.
"Because not a single fact has been provided, not a single projectile has been shown. Nothing."
This is what you get for living in a Russian informational bubble. You miss the reality.
Excellent detail as always Don, thank you.
Thanks for the updates, all four of them. Several quite depressing. The real depressing story here is in my opinion how willing the Russians are to Go to the slaugther. But of course, after a while the slaugther gets exhausted, and cannot deal with the mess. (Yes I know Tom is furious with Gen Stab U, and I tend to accept his analysis (i mean the guy is hired by so many intelligence agencies, he must know what he is takling about) but even so the Russian mindlessness is depressing. And gives little hope for victory. However I will say that the last update was somewhat more positive.
There are multiple reasons for the single-minded Russian troops, most of these date back to decades of propaganda and brainwashed people about the Russian imperial glory against the decadent West, etc.
Add to this the role of the Russian orthodox church in supporting these imperial ambitions, and you get a nasty mix (which even influences non Christian people of Russia)
Don reported a VKS force tried to retake the ruins of the Vovchansk aggregate plant, and you have to ask, why? Is the commander butt hurt because they couldn't hold it under impossible conditions? Wouldn't it make more sense to use those troops next door in Kursk? This is the long term indoctrination you're talking about.
A couple of Ukrainian soldiers from my circle started to say that Russian brutality towards own soldiers is working better than the Ukrainian softer attitude. Because it makes Russians follow ALL orders and do suicide missions, meanwhile in Ukraine it's surprisingly easy to leave your unit and just go home.
I would guess in Russia you bribe?
Yes, I've seen specific price tags of "2 day leave", "skip 1 assault", "get a paper that you're disabled" etc.
You can buy yourself from fighting the war. Russian state tracks down deserters somewhat effectively, by the way.
Ukraine's army and judicial system was never intended to looks for thousands of deserters and they're just not doing that because they're too busy. Sad and funny.
The west needs to answer Russia's "hybrid" attacks kinetically. Our simply responding with law enforcement and cyber skirmishing is insufficient for the malicious activities actively trying to overturn or even destroy western democracies (see 2016 and 2020 election interference in the USA).
Add in the escalation of sabotage and similar Don described here, and it's clear that bad things need to start happening to FSB and GRU facilities in Russia.
I'm sure the S Koreans and the CIA know which types and how many shells are being sent, and it makes total sense to get 130 mm Russia no longer makes. Too bad quality control isn't better.
Thanks Don for these report some not so good and some good in them