"A Ukrainian that spoke Russian used the radio to tell them that wounded Russians were crossing the field to their position."
A story made for the Western readers. Russian is still a "lingua franca" in Ukraine. By such kiddish mistakes, one can judge the credibility of the report.
Obviously, he couldn't use the radio in such a deceptive way if he spoke Ukrainian at the moment. So that's not a mistake, that's a clarification.
And (surprise!) the primary Don's audience are Western readers. (Though it is interesting for, let's say, "participating sides", as well).
PS I'm not trying to counter your statement about "lingua franca", since while briefly scrolling through the described 18-minutes video, one can hear lots of Ukrainians speaking Russian, both grunts and staff officers of the 3-rd assault (ex-Azov) brigade.
As of 2022, 81% of the population of Ukraine speak the Ukrainian language in their personal life, at the same time 34% speak Russian, meaning that significant portion of Ukrainian residents constituting 19% of people speak both languages regularly.
native speaker level is a very specific thing, a lot of people coming to big cities used to have to learn the "right" version of russian instead of their ukrainian surzhyk
I think you are confusing "Do speak" with "Able to speak". And even for "able to speak" 95% is too high. Many young kids in the West of Ukraine who never learned Russian can't speak Russian (though can understand it) and there are some that can't even understand it properly (they won't understand words that don't have similar equivalents in Ukrainian).
Not going to argue on the big stuff, but 34% is realistically "underperforming" results – I would guess, that many people just prefer to be hush-hush about using russian.
No mistake. It's a reality: different levels of Russian language knowledge, accents, etc. And there are young people who didn't study/use Russian at all,
The fact that you are simply a Russian provocateur has been clear for a long time, judging by your posts here. Even your nickname, if divided in half, means Stupid Leo (Тупо Лев)
What irritates me about Vovchansk is that all this mayhem may have been avoidable, if Ukraine had managed to construct a defense line at the north of the city.
Then, Ukraine may have been able to hold the Russians ahead of the city, instead of fighting tooth and nail for every house and building for months.
"A Ukrainian that spoke Russian used the radio to tell them that wounded Russians were crossing the field to their position."
A story made for the Western readers. Russian is still a "lingua franca" in Ukraine. By such kiddish mistakes, one can judge the credibility of the report.
Obviously, he couldn't use the radio in such a deceptive way if he spoke Ukrainian at the moment. So that's not a mistake, that's a clarification.
And (surprise!) the primary Don's audience are Western readers. (Though it is interesting for, let's say, "participating sides", as well).
PS I'm not trying to counter your statement about "lingua franca", since while briefly scrolling through the described 18-minutes video, one can hear lots of Ukrainians speaking Russian, both grunts and staff officers of the 3-rd assault (ex-Azov) brigade.
As of 2022, 81% of the population of Ukraine speak the Ukrainian language in their personal life, at the same time 34% speak Russian, meaning that significant portion of Ukrainian residents constituting 19% of people speak both languages regularly.
https://zbruc.eu/node/114247
It's also important to speak it as a native would in order to convince another native speaker.
We can judge your judgements by the fact that you support Russia.
I believe every (ok, 95%) of Ukrainians speak Russian at the level of native speakers.
I am from Ukraine.
your belief is based on zero evidence
native speaker level is a very specific thing, a lot of people coming to big cities used to have to learn the "right" version of russian instead of their ukrainian surzhyk
I think you are confusing "Do speak" with "Able to speak". And even for "able to speak" 95% is too high. Many young kids in the West of Ukraine who never learned Russian can't speak Russian (though can understand it) and there are some that can't even understand it properly (they won't understand words that don't have similar equivalents in Ukrainian).
Not going to argue on the big stuff, but 34% is realistically "underperforming" results – I would guess, that many people just prefer to be hush-hush about using russian.
A) That is very heavily relying on the region you come from including family background.
B) That will vanish.
No mistake. It's a reality: different levels of Russian language knowledge, accents, etc. And there are young people who didn't study/use Russian at all,
The fact that you are simply a Russian provocateur has been clear for a long time, judging by your posts here. Even your nickname, if divided in half, means Stupid Leo (Тупо Лев)
It would mean something more in the way of "blankly, lion". But I don't get why do you need to halve it, since Tupolev 16 is a model of russian jet...
I know that. It's just that this person's comments are always on the borderline of provocative. And this is just a play on words.
Thank you Don this was to me a good report and it went good for the UAF
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What irritates me about Vovchansk is that all this mayhem may have been avoidable, if Ukraine had managed to construct a defense line at the north of the city.
Then, Ukraine may have been able to hold the Russians ahead of the city, instead of fighting tooth and nail for every house and building for months.